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11 June 2014, 08:13
medved
looking for a website will all powder chemical informations
any hints on that website.

thanks alot.
11 June 2014, 09:14
SR4759
Go to a powder manufacturer's site and look up the MSDS - material safety data sheets.
11 June 2014, 10:56
medved
but there is a website i lost the link where you have all the info and even a picture of most of the reloading powders on the market.
11 June 2014, 19:32
Rapidrob
Ain't none.


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11 June 2014, 20:40
dpcd
Here is what powder is made from; Nitroglycerin and cotton. Use Ether as a solvent. If you are going to make some, I am glad I don't live next to you.
11 June 2014, 21:36
craigster
http://gunpowder-chem.wikispac.../Smokeless+Gunpowder
11 June 2014, 23:41
medved
found it back

that website :

http://www.ilrc.ucf.edu/powder...il.php?powder_id=250
12 June 2014, 01:06
richj
that's cool. I was looking for that too.

thanks
12 June 2014, 11:30
delloro
there is a book, "the chemistry of powder and explosives," which is very informative. it is dated, but still interesting.

ETA: if you want to make smokeless powder, it does not seem that simple. the early factories had a bad habit of blowing up. it took the europeans a while to make it safely.
12 June 2014, 20:02
PaulS
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Here is what powder is made from; Nitroglycerin and cotton. Use Ether as a solvent. If you are going to make some, I am glad I don't live next to you.



Actually single base powders like 4895 ans 4350 don't contain any nitroglycerine. They use a less energetic Diphenylamine or Dinitrotoluene sometimes in combination with nitrophenylamine.

Nitroglycerine is trinitroglycerol - the extra nitrate makes it more volatile. It is used in the making a double based powders like Winchester ball powders and Hodgdon 414, HP38.


Speer, Sierra, Lyman, Hornady, Hodgdon have reliable reloading data. You won't find it on so and so's web page.
12 June 2014, 20:36
dpcd
You caught me on that one, my making stuff up I mean.
12 June 2014, 21:12
Cowboy_Dan
quote:
Originally posted by PaulS:
Actually single base powders like 4895 ans 4350 don't contain any nitroglycerine. They use a less energetic Diphenylamine or Dinitrotoluene sometimes in combination with nitrophenylamine.

Nitroglycerine is trinitroglycerol - the extra nitrate makes it more volatile. It is used in the making a double based powders like Winchester ball powders and Hodgdon 414, HP38.


Really? My chemical engineer brother and I were looking at the data on the above site and it was his conclusion that the chemicals you list were decomposition products of nitrocellulose produced in the gcms, but he isn't an expert on propellant chemistry so we could be wrong ...


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13 June 2014, 01:06
delloro
Diphenylamine is a stabilizer as I recall. Dinitrolouene and centralites are retarders.
15 June 2014, 17:20
243winxb
The Manufacture of Smokeless Powders and their
Forensic Analysis: http://firearmsid.com/Feature%..._gunpowder/index.htm The chart above identifies the primer mix chemicals, the suppliers to ATK, and the country of origin. All 13 chemicals for primer mix are formulated by U.S.-based commercial companies, but 10 chemicals have origins outside of the United States. Of these 10 identified chemicals, 4 have origins solely in China, 2 others are only found in Mexico, and 1 is only found in Brazil. Three other chemicals share origins among the United States, European countries, India, China, and Mexico. http://www.almc.army.mil/alog/..._smallarms_ammo.html
14 July 2014, 03:10
Atkinson
Jeez I hope no Iraq guys are tuned in here! shocker


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14 July 2014, 03:21
tanks
It is not the formula for nuclear bomb. Iraq has been making its basic munitions for a long while. Same for Iran etc..
14 July 2014, 04:43
243winxb
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