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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
lever/tubemag guns COULD have a strike the primer and blow up the gun issue.

450 and 45/70 are the same internal capacity .. and the 450 marlin is basically a 45/70 belted, loaded to marlin pressure (NOT 458 american 2" pressures - though its also the same capacity) .. the marlin is a hot loaded 45/70, every time, off the shelf ..

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
thanks for asking..
the 45/70 can be loaded much hotter than trapdoor loads .. but most makers aren't really charged up with the legal ramifications ..

the 458 american 2" was the 458 winmag cut down to 2", which is roughly the same as the 45/70.

BUT .. you could chamber the 4582" in some of the belted, and WRONG BARREL HH based cases .. imagine a 458 bullet in a 300 weatherby!

enter the 450 marlin - with its taller belt .. and i think i touch wider ...

same capacity as the 45/70
loaded to the pressures a marlin can stand
BUT it can't be chambered in a trapdoor OR a 300 weatherby .. the bolt won't close

So you get hot loaded 45/70 ballistics in the same lever gun as a 45/70 .. and some of the same restrictions, as a pointy bullet in a tube mag fun could result in the bullet setting off the primer of the next case...

the 325 flextip give you a pointy bullet, that shouldn't be able to set off a primer

in effect, you get a pointy bullet equal to a hot loaded 45/70

make better sense?

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Originally posted by Naphtali:
Are there reloading data available from powder manufacturers showing reloads for this bullet in 45/70 brass that more closely approximate 450 data? If there are these data, please furnish link(s).

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Originally posted by Naphtali:
Did you write that loading data for 450 Marlin (in 1895) can be used in 45/70 (in current Marlin 1895) for comparable results - with comparable pressure ranges?