Anyone ever try to improve the .22 long rifle?
i did!!!!


Against my better judgments and after long thought I have come to the conclusion to tell everybody here WHAT NOT TO DO!!


I have always had a facination with fire arms.
When I was about 23 years old I was having a shooting contest with my oldest brother.
We were shooting .22long rifles,He had just spent about $300 on a Browning lever action and was damn proud of it. He also thought it would outshoot my Beloved model 60
Marlin. So we shot and shot and shot again and my $50.00 Marlin handed his ass to him everytime.I was using goood old low velocity
run of the mill CCI bullets.
He was using good old High velocity yellow jackets or what ever(I could not afford the
Hi-vels at the time)
He was all bent out of shape so HE decieded
to have a penatration contest.
It was not even fair to compete but I did and
guess what he kicked my ass! No surprise!
So I made a deal with him, with one of my shells I could OUT PENATRATE his hi-vels Rifle for rifle.Are you getting this? Winner takes both rifles.He was sure of himself as was I.AT that point I got away from him and LOADED MY OWN because he would not share.Fair is Fair.

Well I took 2 shells and and pulled the bullets from both.Then I emptied the powder from 1 into the OTHER I thought a .22 MAGNUM load as I was just shooting to defend my rifle.

WEll dont do it with this particular rifle!

He shot and as expected same results clean thru.

Here I am beaming from ear to ear and knowing I am going to jeopardize the ownership of his $300.00 rifle.

He dont have a clue as to what I have done
so I get down an squeeze the trigger and what
happen was a series of sounds not to be explained.

My beloved Marlin split the reciever knocked the scope clean off and split the stock where I was hanging on to it!!!!AND SPIT SMOKE IN MY FACE TO BOOT.

It did not EVEN hit the target let alone
penetrate the board!!

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT???
After I recovered and everyone stopped laughing after seeing I still had both eyes
MY bother said That I should send that bastard in and tell what happened.

He still has his BLR .22 rim fire and I told Him what I did before he had a chance
to blame Marlin for it.



Seriously who would have thought that could happen???????


A bolt rifle would have survived it !!!!


Again serious thought went into this post
and as I press the submit button.I still have doubts but here goes.


But I have done some wonders in my time .

I doubt that a bolt gun would have survived it as well. IIRC the .22 LR generates about 27,000 PSI and to double the charge might increase the pressure times 4

You're lucky to have all your pinkies and eyeballs.

Maybe this will stop someone else from doing the same.

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A bolt rifle would have survived it !!!!

Right!! If you believe this, I have a slightly used TOLL bridge near NYC I'll sell you cheap......

You see, the problem is that a rimfire case has to be thin and relatively weak in the rim area in order for that little firing pin to set it off. This rim spot is not noted for its ability to keep from rupturing when pressures get too high. If rimfire cases didn't have this little design flaw, we'd never have needed center-fire cases!

yes... win 22 wr

jeffe

I seen this... I kid took and did that same thing, this was with a Rem 510, if any one knows how the barrel is held in on one then you know, the 2 pins and alum block busted and the barrel jumped out of the stock. Sounded like a 223 went off, melted the case into the chamber, At least we had talked him into putting his hat over the bolt as all kinds of flash and smoke shot out from under it. Never mess with .22 lrs.

P.S. what is the powder used in them little TNT bombs ?

Now, tell me, have you ever even considered doing a thing like that with your .30 cartridges? Just double-charge em to get a magnum round? I bet you wouldn't DARE doing that...so why did you think you could get away with that with a .22?

(If it was that easy, why would the .22 magnum even have been invented?)

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Originally posted by short44:

what is the powder used in them little TNT bombs ?

I don't know, but once several years ago I did pull bullets from as many different .22LR rounds as I had on hand so that I could examine and weigh the powder. The powder weights in different loads varied from about 1.1 grain to about 2 grains. The powders did differ in appearance. All were small-granule flake or ball types. I suspect that at least one was loaded with Bullseye. Others were probably loaded with something like a fast-burning shotgun powder such as Red Dot, Clays, or Titewad, or one of the other powders commonly used in 12 gauge target loads.

I wonder if we wrote one of the makers would they really tell us what the use ? I still know they guy that did that to his .22 and he WILL NOT let me reload any rounds for him, that sh*ts dangerus he mumbles. And we still pick on him, right before he shoots we yell BOOM, and he miss's and gets mad at us...

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Now, tell me, have you ever even considered doing a thing like that with your .30 cartridges?

Max
Nope.
But have you ever fired extremly hot .38 special
loads in a .357 or a good hot .30-30 load in a
Ruger#1.
In the .38vs357 mag there at times can be almost a double charge of powder.

I would not do it again and that is the only
real ATTENTION GETTER in my reloading chronicals.

I once loaded-up some 357 Mag with Sierra 170gr JHC and 11 grains of 231.

Got 2350 FPS from a 4" barrel without ANY pressure signs.

Wanna know how?

cal30 1906

I did the exact same thing....when I was 10....

The rifle, a Remington Nylon 66 auto, survived and had a long life with no sign of damage.

Scared the crap out of me. But, when I started relaoding a few years later the incident galvinized my thoughts on safety in relaoding. I only use loads I find in reloading manuals and I look for any pressure signs on every load. Granted some of them have been "over" in one and OK in another, but never "over" in everyone. Most of my "hot" loads are averages of the tops loads in half a dozen books. They are accuate and the animals I shoot fall down dead, good enough for me. Super hot loads because my rifle is "special"? I don't think so.

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Originally posted by Ralph Hyrlik:
I once loaded-up some 357 Mag with Sierra 170gr JHC and 11 grains of 231.

Got 2350 FPS from a 4" barrel without ANY pressure signs.

Wanna know how?

I'll bite!

I melted the lead out of the bullet prior to seating and replaced it with plastic