NOTICE TO LOCK, STOCK & BARREL, INC. CUSTOMERS
(E-mail Notice)
Lock, Stock & Barrel, Inc. has ceased doing business and intends to sell its inventory and
customer list, including personally identifiable information ("PII"), consisting of your name,
address, phone number and e-mail address (no credit card, banking, or other personal or financial
information) to Midway Arms, Inc., d/b/a Midway USA, a company that sells identical or similar
goods. If you do not want your PII transferred to Midway USA, please hit "REPLY" to this
optoutlockstock@gmail.com e-mail to complete your "OPT-OUT" procedure. If you choose to
do so, please complete this opt-out process within 20 days of receiving this e-mail. If you do not
opt-out, your PII will be transferred to Midway USA, and be subject to the Midway USA
Privacy Policy, which you can review at http://www.midwayusa.com.

Thanks for pointing this out, butchloc. It was a pity LS&B did not survive. I happily did business with them for many years.

The practice of turning customer data into $$$ is highly questionable, IMHO. I'm sure the people behind LS&B have nothing to do with this, rather the decision to sell customer data was likely taken by the people (lawyers?) running down the company. Still, that makes such trade in customer data no less deplorable. If I want to be on the Midway customer list, I'll surely be able to sign up via their website.

I realize that trade in customer data takes place all the time - even more so in these days of the Internet. I still find this highly questionable, and it sure puts the focus on privacy protection on the Internet - if such a thing exists?

- mike

I also did business with them for many years .

It pisses me off to no end when they sell their accumulated customer info .

Any more who doesn't , banks leave whole statements in their trash , copy machines have

informational hard drives ,every cyber hacker world wide is looming just waiting for that chance to defraud .

Next time a company asked for my information ; I'm going to give them their own CEO'S info !!!.

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Originally posted by Doc224/375:
It pisses me off to no end when they sell their accumulated customer info .

a sales company has THREE assets ... and ONLY three
Customer base
industry discounts
name brand

no one care's that it ""pisses you off" .. you agreed to it becoming their intellectual property when you agreed to the TOS.

Of course, you being "pissed off" would ultimately mean that LSB would ahve only ONE asset to sell, and that isn't they critical one.

thanks for your support, fair weather friend...

MHO,
the US isn't under the EU data privacy laws, thank god.

the USPS sells its mailing list, every day ...
Its what is done "who are your customers and how can we contact them" is a NORMAL part of a corporate sale.

Me, i am glad that they got something after not being able to COMPETE in today's market .. what do you want, a bailout?

LS&B likely isn`t the seller here. The creditors that want their money probably petitioned the court to sell off any assets to raise cash, and the list is a asset. Blame the bank and courts...

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jeffeosso

Yo DIP SHIT an I use the term loosely with you, because your a heaping pile of it !

Did you ever bother to read the Companies PRIVACY STATEMENT ?

Yet once again your on the ignorant side of the equation ; We do not share nor sell private

information about our customers !!!.

Here's one from Brownell's !
Privacy Policy

At Brownells we won't sell, trade, or share your personal information with anybody; it's as simple as that. If you are interested in reading about the specifics of our policy, they are explained below.

Thanks.
Frank BrownellPete Brownell

Brownells Privacy Policy as of January 1, 2003. This policy is subject to change in accordance with the terms set forth in this policy.

1. Brownells Privacy Pledge To You
At Brownells, we pride ourselves on satisfying you in every way we can. That is why close attention is paid to the way we handle your personal information. When you provide us your name, e-mail, phone number, address, credit card number, or bank account number, you can be assured it will not be shared with anyone that doesn't need it to process your order. We do reserve the right to permit official use of your information in the result of a subpoena or a legitimate legal issue.

2. The Information We Collect and How We Collect It
This section is broken down into four areas of our website.

* A Non-Registered Visitor
When you use our website without signing in (visiting anonymously), we do not collect any personally identifiable information about you. Our web server does automatically log the visit information of IP addresses including, but not limited to length of visit, domain, subnet, pages visited, and number of clicks through.
* Registered (Member) Areas of the Site
For a visitor to use the registered or member areas of our site, they must provide personally identifiable information so our online staff can communicate with them regarding online orders. This information includes, but is not limited to, your name, phone number, e-mail address, home address, and shipping address.
* Survey & Service Improvement Area of the Site
Some visitors enjoy helping us improve our website by participating in activities that include, but are not limited to, surveys and online focus groups. These activities may require additional forms of tracking so we can adequately manage and collect the information that is generated. In certain circumstances, we reserve the right to share such information with marketing agencies, including, but not limited to, our advertising agency and our web-marketing consultants, for their expertise. To participate in these activities, visitors must meet these two qualifications: 1. They must be a registered member; and 2. Agree to the rules and qualifications set forth by each specific activity.
* E-Mail
Your e-mail address is used to correspond with you regarding the following things: 1. Answers to questions from our sales, customer, and technical support staff. 2. Promotional/marketing messages that you may have opted-in to receive when you signed up your account online. You can view or change your personal information and preferences at any time by logging into the site and accessing the My Account tab. However, if you would like to remove yourself from the promotional email list you will need to unsubscribe at the bottom of the promotional email or reply to the email with unsubscribe in the subject line.

3. Cookies; Which Ones We Set & How They Benefit You
Brownells sets single-session cookies, which are necessary to operate features such as, but not limited to, user login, online ordering, stored shopping carts, and credit card information access. Without the use of cookies we wouldn't be able to offer you these timesaving, value-enhancing features. We also set a persistent cookie that stores your login id if you have selected the Remember Me option during the sign-in process.

4. We Do Not Share Your Information
We do not share your information with anyone outside Brownells unless it is a request that is in the interest of the law or certified government agencies (e.g. subpoena or legal reasons). We share your information internally at Brownells for the sole purpose of processing your order.

5. Here's How We Ensure Your Highest Security
We always protect your information from the outside by not sharing it unless we are required to do so by law. We have streamlined our order-taking process, thereby reducing the number of internal people who see your information.

6. Former Customers
We do not share information about our former customers with anyone (except in response to subpoenas or for other legitimate legal reasons).

7. Changes In This Policy
If our privacy policy changes, and it effects the way your personally identifiable information is collected, stored, transmitted or disclosed to any third parties, we will provide advance notice of the change using the following methods:

* Notification of the change will be posted on our web site for a minimum of thirty days before the change takes effect.
* An email will be sent to the address associated with your user account at least thirty days in advance to notify you of a policy change.
* You will always have the opportunity to opt-out of any changes to the policy.

If you have questions, comments, or want your user account deleted, please e-mail us at CustomerService@brownells.com or call 800-741-0015.

Thank you,

Brownells - Selection. Service. Satisfaction.

Reread statement 1, doc. Legitimate legal reasons, doc, is a sale of the company. Thanks for your feedback, and happy to provide you corrective guidance. ?

Three assists, doc, and lsb only has one worth selling to midway. If you had any actual compassion for the previous owners, you would be excited that they received anything.

opt out

Larry is a Toad----only do business with him as a last resort.

Bought many items from LSB over the years.

Sorry but even if Jeffeosso is in the weeds on quite a few things he is correct on this.

Why compassion for the former owners?? Are they friends of your's? Companies start up and fail all the time. If you don't have a better mouse trap, you go under.
Compassion did not drive LSB. Nor does it drive Midway nor any of the other vendors. Profit, pure and simple.

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Originally posted by wasbeeman:
Why compassion for the former owners?? Are they friends of your's? Companies start up and fail all the time. If you don't have a better mouse trap, you go under.
Compassion did not drive LSB. Nor does it drive Midway nor any of the other vendors. Profit, pure and simple.

You are correct in that it is survival of the fittest----no I do not know the previous owners. Competition is a good thing and I always hate to see a Vendor that has excellent customer service and pricing go by the wayside-----less options for everyone.

I just read my post from 24 hours ago and I find it sounds much harsher than I intended.

My only point was that companies must find a middle ground of profit and service. And we, as clients, must determine what balance we'll accept between service and price.

I apologize if I stepped on any toes at LSB or elsewhere.

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Reread statement 1, doc. Legitimate legal reasons,

Legal subpoenas are Legitimate compulsory reasons of compliance / Sales of intellectual properties are not

CUSTOMER INFORMATION by definition of LAW ! Might want to check that FACT jeffeosso !!!.

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Originally posted by Doc224/375:

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Reread statement 1, doc. Legitimate legal reasons,

Sales of intellectual properties are not CUSTOMER INFORMATION by definition of LAW ! Might want to check that FACT jeffeosso !!!.
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Doc,
I didn't say a customer list was IP, doc. YOU did .. facts being what they are, doc, you might reread this thread.. a sale of assets IS legitimate LEGAL reason.

you are all pissed off about something you don't understand ... well, doc, no one cares.. and as many times as you've had your arse cheeks kicked up around your shoulders, i am beginning to think you LIKE being wrong and emotional ...

I've found you someone you can finally be proud of out dumming ...


what was that patent number again?

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a sales company has THREE assets ... and ONLY three
Customer base
industry discounts
name brand

no one care's that it ""pisses you off" .. you agreed to it becoming their intellectual property when you agreed to the TOS.

Who posted the above statement numb nuts perhaps you can't read your own postings !.

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4. We Do Not Share Your Information
We do not share your information with anyone outside Brownells unless it is a request that is in the interest of the law or certified government agencies (e.g. subpoena or legal reasons). We share your information internally at Brownells for the sole purpose of processing your order.

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6. Former Customers
We do not share information about our former customers with anyone (except in response to subpoenas or for other legitimate legal reasons).

Sale of a company does not automatically constitute a legal reason for the sale of personal information !

Perhaps you should learn somethings before attempting to bull shit anyone !!!.

So, I guess you agree that it becomes the IP of the selling company ... and that IP belongs to the company ...

just pisses you off that, what? exactly? doesn't midway already have your info?