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Need a Chemist or Metallurgist
11 June 2005, 23:38
lawndartNeed a Chemist or Metallurgist
I'm doing a little ballistics work for a bullet company. They have a new proprietary coating (doesn't everyone?). The end user for this bullet wants an independent analysis to show that there is nothing toxic (can't have a toxic bullet

). So... If someone wants to make some money for an hour of GC/MS work, please give me a shout.
Thanks,
lawndart
noak@direcway.com
12 June 2005, 17:59
DigitalDanquote:
GC/MS work

If yuro'e corseseyd and dsyelixc can you siltl raed oaky?
12 June 2005, 19:00
TailgunnerGas Chromatogphery/Mass Spectrometer (parden the spelling).
13 June 2005, 01:03
lawndartSorry,
You take a very small sample of the material in question, put it in a vacumn chamber (or a chamber flooded with an inert gas). Heat it hotter than Elizabeth Hurley's ass. The super heated molecules release energy at specific wavelengths depending on their composition and structure. The sensors record the energy pattern (spectrograph) and compare it to the library in the computer.
When I studied chemistry in college I had to do all this manually. It took two days to run one sample. I then had to paw through thick books to manually compare spectra. Now it is pretty automated.
My head hurts just thinking about how hard it was to get a good result back in 1977.
lawndart
13 June 2005, 02:10
NEJackThere are a number of companies that do this type of thing. Where are you located? If you are in the midwest, there is a place called Midwest Labs in Omaha Nebraska that has down GC/MS for me before. Don't know what their rates are (the boss worries about the bills), but I think that they are pretty resonable.
13 June 2005, 04:00
lawndartI'm in Idaho, where the Mormons drink coffee and only have one wife.
I'll give Midwest labs a call on Monday.
Thanks,
lawndart
13 June 2005, 05:30
DigitalDanquote:
hotter than Elizabeth Hurley's ass.
Man, that's HOT! I mean, like, shit fire and save matches man!
I know what it is, just didn't recognize the acronymn. Sorry, I don't do that stuff. I can feed some to a crat if you want???

If yuro'e corseseyd and dsyelixc can you siltl raed oaky?
13 June 2005, 08:13
lawndartI'll send you a box of samples to test on crats. It would be good if you could make some crat spectrographs on the sidewalk.
lawndart
13 June 2005, 08:18
DigitalDanRoger Red Leader! POTKB! Again. Isn't that what F150s are for?
Dan
If yuro'e corseseyd and dsyelixc can you siltl raed oaky?
13 June 2005, 08:31
lawndartYup. F-150's, snake, nape, rock-eye, 2.75" rockets, AGM-65s, daisy-cutters, GAU-8s; many routes to a good result.
lawndart
quote:
You take a very small sample of the material in question, put it in a vacumn chamber (or a chamber flooded with an inert gas). Heat it hotter than Elizabeth Hurley's ass.
OK, I can do that. Just send me Elizabeth Hurley and a thermometer......
for every hour in front of the computer you should have 3 hours outside
13 June 2005, 15:23
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by lawndart:
I'm in Idaho, where the Mormons drink coffee and only have one wife.
lawndart

oh my.. sounds like a mormon hell... then again, they DO get coffee
JC,. there's probably 60 gc/ms freelance labs in houston.. just a little need for them in the petrol biz.. go to anywho.com and look up testing labs, houston, tx
jeffe
Lawndart, I checked with the chemist/spousal unit, and Hibbs Analytical in Boise should be able to do it. Talk to Sandy. HTH, Dutch.
PS, I think they changed their name to Analytical labs.
Life's too short to hunt with an ugly dog.
14 June 2005, 01:49
loud-n-boomerLawndart:
If Dutch's contact in Boise can't help, let me know. I work with a lab in Reno, and several here in California that can do it.
Dave
One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I'll never know. - Groucho Marx
14 June 2005, 08:10
lawndartThanks guys,
I have to go to Boise tomorrow. I'll take some samples and a credit card.
Once we get the first batch out to the end user I'll be sending out samples

and posting pictures and specs here.
This is a fun part time job. They call me up and say, "Can you do _____?" Usually I just say, "Ooooh, that sounds cool." (and get to it)
lawndart
If Boise is a no-go I'll give you a shout Dave.