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15 September 2010, 21:32
sw
Should I shoot them or pull them apart
I accidently loaded some 38 special brass with 12.2 grains of 2400 and 158 grain hard cast lead bullets. Not realizing that my wife had dumped the 158 grain bullets in with some 125 grain bullets. Anyway I loaded up about 50 shells before realizing the mistake. The question is should I take a chance and shoot them or pull them apart and reload them. I am shooting a Smith 6" 629 and a 6" Colt python.

Your advise is appreciated.
Thanks.
SW
15 September 2010, 21:39
GeorgeS
Pull them.

Why put yourself at risk just to save a little effort?

George


15 September 2010, 21:50
seafire/B17G
Amen to what George said..

unless 12.2 grains of 2400 is within the specs for the 158 grain bullet..however a quick check of my reload manual, indicates that is about 50% over what is listed as max capacity with a 38 +_ P load...
15 September 2010, 21:58
onefunzr2
quote:
Originally posted by sw:
I am shooting a Smith 6" 629 and a 6" Colt python.

Your advise is appreciated.


I have no idea what model python you're using but as far as I know, a S&W 629 has only ever been chambered in 44 Rem magnum. At least mine is. So I wouldn't fire your rejects in that revolver.
15 September 2010, 22:50
temmi
I have pulled bullets for less...

You will feel better
16 September 2010, 00:20
Antelope Sniper
Eeker 50% of the listed max load??

I'd pull them.
16 September 2010, 03:53
homebrewer
600 grains is a little less than 1/10 pound-- maybe $2.50 in powder. Pull the bullets. Resize and reflare the brass. Keep wife away from reloading bench. That's the key to it all...
16 September 2010, 04:55
Baldhunter
Have you tried weighing them?With that much difference in bullet weight,it should be easy to find out which ones are 125's and which ones are 158grs.
16 September 2010, 04:56
Sam
Powders still good. Pull them, flare the mouth and seat the right bullet.


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16 September 2010, 05:19
SR4759
quote:
Originally posted by sw:
I accidently loaded some 38 special brass with 12.2 grains of 2400 and 158 grain hard cast lead bullets. Not realizing that my wife had dumped the 158 grain bullets in with some 125 grain bullets. Anyway I loaded up about 50 shells before realizing the mistake. The question is should I take a chance and shoot them or pull them apart and reload them. I am shooting a Smith 6" 629 and a 6" Colt python.

Your advise is appreciated.
Thanks.
SW


Don't blame it on your wife.
16 September 2010, 19:57
homebrewer
quote:
Originally posted by Baldhunter:

Have you tried weighing them? With that much difference in bullet weight, it should be easy to find out which ones are 125s and which ones are 158grs.
A capital idea, Dr. Watson!
17 September 2010, 04:44
Witnes10
The Hornady manuel lists 12.5 grains 2400 for 180 grain bullets, If the pistols used are .357
would the cases not stand up to that load. ???
17 September 2010, 05:01
Sam
.38 Special brass will not support the pressure. Over loading a .38 case does not make a .357 magnum. Some brass is stronger than others but still dangerous.


A bad day at the range is better than a good day at work.
17 September 2010, 05:01
Antelope Sniper
Maybe, after all, the powder is contained in a much smaller area to start. I've shot 10gr of 2400 behind 158gr lead bullets in my .357 mag. Great load. But I would never jump my powder charge up 25% all at once...All risk, very little reward.

P.S. Homebrew is considered the crazyone on this forum, and he wouldn't do it...
17 September 2010, 05:36
aerostarp
quote:
should I shoot them or pull them apart


Substitute the word "her" for "them" and you might have a more appropriate question. Big Grin


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17 September 2010, 05:38
jeffeosso
this question has the same answer as the following question

do you wish to live without an injury caused by these loads?


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19 September 2010, 16:52
Red C.
If you had loaded them thinking you were loading for the lighter bullets and accidentally used heavier bullets, that would be a much more serious problem--as the pressure in the ammo with the heavier than expected bullet would be TOO HIGH!

Since you loaded these, using a powder charge for the heavier bullet, shooting a lighter bullet will result in less pressure and they should be OK to shoot, but the trajectory will not be what you expect when shooting the lighter bullets.

HOWEVER, IF THERE IS ANY DOUBT concerning what you've loaded, I think I would pull them and start over. You can save the powder. You can possibly save the bullet (depending on how you pull them), and of course, the brass can be used again. And, MAYBE MOST IMPORTANTLY, you'll have peace of mind when shooting what you know to be correctly loaded ammo.


Red C.
Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion.
19 September 2010, 18:12
Gatogordo
I've wasted time doing worse, but considering how little all those components are worth, you'll be working for less than $5 an hour to pull them. I certainly wouldn't shoot them, but I'd lean towards chunking them instead of breaking them down.


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19 September 2010, 19:33
seafire/B17G
an old George Carlin line about Motorcycle helmets seems an appropriate analogy here...

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19 September 2010, 20:18
Mark
It also sounds like you are planning on using a hammer type bullet puller. If you remove the die out of a press and run the bullet up though the hole and grab it with a pair of pliers then pull the case back down, you can pull 50 bullets in about 4 minutes. I don't use pliers, I have some blacksmith end nippers that I use and it doesn't usually even scar up the bullets enough to make them unusuable.

As mentioned, weighing them should also be pretty obvious with a 30 grain difference, but there is also something to be said for starting over from the beginning when things get confused.


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19 September 2010, 20:35
Rockdoc
Two questions here:

Which of the two revolvers mentioned do you intend to shoot them with?

Is that revolver, and your health, worth more than the 50 rounds?


DRSS
20 September 2010, 02:51
merganser1
From my point of view, pulling bullets when things aren't satisfactory for various reasons is just a part of handloading. That's why the companies make all those pullers; and the pliers and your press works just fine too.

And you have a very good reason to pull them. After you get that done, you won't be thinking about it and you'll sleep better.

With an inertia puller, pistol bullets in this caliber in 158 gr. ought to just about fall out; no need to hit them hard. Just my experience. Merg