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I got about 8 pounds of h4895 for free but it might be from the late 80s. It was stored properly. Its also is a different color. Old stuff is dark gray and new h4895 is kinda amber-gray. will it shoot the same? why is it different color? | ||
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 I see H-4350 is also a different color.....and I don't know why......but it's the same stuff. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Can't say it would shoot the same but you have to assume lot to lot variations anyway. The color difference is probably due to different manufacturers. Much of current Hodgdon powder is made by ADI and their powder tends to be a lighter color. | |||
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What does it smell like? If it still has the ether smell you will be OK. It is wise to work up carefully to your max load when you change to a different "lot" of the same powder. | |||
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The older stuff has a better graphite coating than the new stuff. I wondered about it between some really olf H4198 and some much moire recent stuff. If there is no acrid smell or red fumes comming off it, use it. AD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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start off at prudent velocities instead of max and work up... I have always preferred IMR's over Hodgdon's... I loaded some surplus early WW 2 vintage 4895, and it was actually a little more accurate than current production IMR 4895... Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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I'm the opposite but simply due to the fact that IMR's haven't been consistantly available in Europe for awhile. It appears that Hodgdon's distribution network has changed that quite quickly in the past year or so. At least now I can use the data I've hoarded over the years. trashcanman - IMO the appearnace (color) from the older powders to the newer are most likely changes in coating.....? Cheers, Number 10 | |||
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If it is real old the lable will say, "made in Scotland". I shot this powder in a Hunter Class rifle, in the 80's. When Hodgden started importing the Australian powders, many of the BR shooters claimed it was "No Good", but I never saw any radical difference. NRA Patron Life Member Benefactor Level | |||
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I have some old and new H-4895, and the color of the granules is different. I think the graphite content of the new stuff is different from the old. But, both shoot equally well. It's my "go-to" powder for 223's and 222 Mag loads. Don | |||
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its obviously no good anymore - send it to me & I will dispose of it for you  | |||
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4895 is one powder that seems to be extraordinarily consistent from lot to lot and even varies little between manufacturers. I've used the Scottish version, the surplus version, the American IMR version, and now the Canadian IMR version -- all seem to do equally well. Seafire's advice to work up as you would with any change in powder lots is appropriate. By the way, powder from the 80's would be the young stuff in my loading cabinet  | |||
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 H-4895 (surplus) is the only powder I ran into a SERIOUS decomposition Problem. 8 pounds of it created miss and hang fires and surface rusted my Redding dispenser. It was a redish brown, smelled like nitrous or nitric acid and took out a section of my lawn.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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If the older H4895 was made in Scotland then this version ran slightly hotter and gave slightly better accuacy than the current offering from ADI...at least in my experience. I have some (made in Scotland) and it works just fine. | |||
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sounds like a very bad thing to have around. if you send it to me, i'll let you know in just about 685 rounds opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I certainly am ecstatic about trashcan getting all the assistance we are so graciously offering him..  | |||
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just doing what we can with what we got   | |||
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