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Any new hunting rifle shot by a beginner will shoot half inch groups at 100yds. So As I had posted previously that as soon as time permited I would take David to the range to see if an 11 year old could shoot 1/2" groups with a 220 swift while having no experence with a centerfire rifle of any sort. Well it is not a new rifle so for a qualatative experment we do come up a bit short! The rifle though is a 1/2" or less shooter with numerous bullet weights and Mfg's, powders and so on. Warmed him up with the 10-22    Then I put him on the swift at 100 yards    His group measured 2.31" for 5 shots at 100 yards. I think it is going to take a rifle that fits him properly with a good load and lots of shooting. For him to get in the 1/2" area on a consistant basis. I have though created a bit of a monster now. He was content with the 10-22. Guess I better start looking for something in a .223 with a youth stock for 2008. | ||
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How come the Ants aren't chewing all over David when he is on the ground? That would make a great rifle to begin his centerfire skills with. Does he have a phobia about Barbers?  Many, many years ago my Father was out of town and I was due for a haircut. Thought I'd really "grow it out" in the three days he'd be gone.  I got out the old Schwin and headed in to town. Didn't get 4 bicycle lengths into town and one of my Fathers buddies spotted me - Mr. Dixon. He called me over, handed me $1, and said to go right on over to the Barber "and leave the change for his tip". Some comment in the background about ALL OF US getting a whippin if Dad saw me with hair that long.  Might have been two weeks since the last haircut.  | |||
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 Forget the .223. Forget the hair. get him a mild recoiling deer rifle that FITS him. A standard length action, long throated 250-3000, .257 Roberts or 6mm. might just be the ticket.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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He just had it cut  you know how it goes, the more you push the more you get the opposite. He really is a good kid so a bit of hair is a minor thing. The ants aren't too numerous in this area and seem to be down in numbers this year. Makes me think that they have a natural cycle like other critters, and are on a down turn. Roger you are the Devil  Just kidding Rodger The thought has crossed my mind to give him a twirl on my 260 with 100 grain loads using Seafire's blue dot data. I fully agree on a rifle that fits him properly that can be re-stocked in the future.I am going to hold off on a deer rifle for now. I want to ease him in with lots shooting which for me will be a lot of loading So right now in my mind a .223 is a good choice.I am wating to see how he does with Tree Rats and Rabbits this fall with the Ruger. Not to mention the cost of .22 ammo is peanuts and at the rate he likes to burn it I still have a couple of bucks for beer's on the weekends. Small steps for now, you know how kids are and I won't push, it has to be of his own free will. Hell he would shoot my Whelen if I let him but only once I bet. One thing is for sure we need more kids shooting and hunting or all may be lost. | |||
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 As a father and/or step father of 7 I've learned to pick my battles. And hair length isn't even on the radar. Nice looking young man. Glad he shares your interests. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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260? Don't they use one of those strange "in-between-the-good-Bullets" bullets?  Is it possible to get 2-3 shots without wearing the barrel out??? | |||
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its not that he wont get his hair cut... its that this is his barber.  | |||
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Posted 04 September 2007 01:12 Any new hunting rifle shot by a beginner will shoot half inch groups at 100yds. So As I had posted previously that as soon as time permited I would take David to the range to see if an 11 year old could shoot 1/2" groups with a 220 swift while having no experence with a centerfire rifle of any sort. HEY PLEASE watch what you tell the young man !. Either this is a sad sick joke or your a loony !. Very few Weapons will shoot .5 MOA and even less people can do it !. So knock off that BS and don't ruin his hopes and dreams of becoming a crack shot !. He seems to be doing very well to this point . Kudos to him !. You just praise him on his success and safe firearms handling and don't rock the boat with BS . Shoot Straight Know Your Target . ...  | |||
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Well they are metric bullets 6.5 mm or so they tell me. Barrel life was a bit of an issue but once I stopped using the DU bullets barrel life improved for the better. But now penetration has dropped off to somewhat mundane and average levels. With the bullets being metric and all I have to do all my numbers in meters per second, jules of energy and so on. Bit of a stretch for a feller who is used to feet, pounds, pints and so on. I put emphasis on the pints as a unit of measure on the weekends in good company as you all know. | |||
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I wonder how many shots the barrel is good for in "metric" numbers??? Maybe shootaway can help me out. Probably out buying barrels by the train load for the 458Win. | |||
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You missed the thread on how all this began If I could figure out how to link it here you would be able to read it and to see what the above was all about and also see past previous threads where hot core myself and others have had a bit of fun with the poster in question.It is well all in good fun we are just being a wee bit cheeky. So yes you are right it is a bit of a joke not a sick one I don't think, and well you got me all figured out on the loony part though kudo's to you on that though. Hot Core I figure it goes something like the temp conversion for c to f you double it and add 30 or there abouts so 30 C is pretty close to 90 give or take So would 6.5 x 2 + 30 sound about right?  I am going to try to post a link to the thread on how all the above came to be. If it does not work please bear with me untill I get it right. | |||
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Did you learn that from shootaway or dr k? | |||
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Any new hunting rifle shot by a beginner will shoot half inch groups at 100yds. So I take it , You weren't the one to originally post the above statement !. Keep up the good work with that young man , SORRY about the Loony bit !!. If any of you learn anything from ME , it would be a miracle . How ever I do have enough of an education to apologize when I have spoken out of context or am wrong !. Shoot Straight Know Your Target . ... | |||
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