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Use a premium bullet - TSX, Accubond, Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, Swift A Frame, Failsafe, Scirrocco, Partition Gold, Partition, Interbond, or Northfork (whatever floats your boat, or I should say, whatever punches your paper) - shoot em through the shoulders under ~200 yards and through the heart/lungs at longer distances. MHO ____________________________________ There are those who would misteach us that to stick in a rut is consistency - and a virtue, and that to climb out of the rut is inconsistency - and a vice. - Mark Twain | Chinese Proverb: When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it, you have a moral obligation to share it with others. ___________________________________ | |||
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I brought this out of the arcives to see if any one else has a simular story. Cal30 If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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My experience has lead me to develop a theory - deer shot in a rib will often drop at the shot and die quickly because of 3 main factors - the bullet expands immediately on hitting the rib and the wound channel is bigger and there is greater internal trauma. At the same time the rib bone fragments enter the lungs like shrapnel and lacerate the lungs & cause massive damage and thirdly the hit on the rib transfers shock to the spine and paralizes the animal momentarily, causing it to drop on the spot. I have never read of such an analysis / theory in the hunting magazines. I have lost deer in very dense wet bush where tracking is impossible because all sign looks fresh and visibility is as little as 2 feet because of thick fern cover here in New Zealand. That particular animal was hit in the arm pit with a 243 95 gr Nposler BT at 10 yards and it jumped up and ran. 10 yards behind the animal the bush was splattered for a radius of 5 to 6 feet with bits of blood, tissue, skin, etc. I guess that deer was lying dead within 50 yards but I could not find it even after searching fro 3 days. The terrain was very hilly with lots of guts, gullies, swamp etc. as well as this vegetation & fern cover. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Since the time I started this thread (7 years ago) and now my combination preference for animals up to the size of mule deer has become a 6.5mm moving a 160 grain Hornady RN.at 2600 fps. To me this would be a shade marginal for elk but would likely perform well on them also. Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Or you could just use a rifle big enough to do the job if you dont have the perfect shot. That wild cat 22 Varminter is just what it says a VARMITER, not a deer gun. Thats all we need is a bunch of dead deer in the bush because someone shot it with a girly gun and it was wounded bad enough to kill it eventually but the hunter never found it. | |||
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10-4 load and clear. roger Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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This was a case of making a mistake before you left the house. Surely any old infantry rifle with factory ammo would have been better than what you shot those animals with. | |||
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