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Is Hodgdon a monopoly? As far as I know, they own all the North American manufacturers of powder, plus some overseas manufacturers. | ||
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It's starting to look that way. I think they are more into the money business rather than the powder business. And right now it's not a buyers market. I don't see a change anytime soon. | |||
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I do not know, back in the mid 60's one of my older brothers called Hodgdon about a problem he had. His Model 70 Winchester 270 was shooting 10 foot high and the bolt had to be hammered open. Bruce Hodgdon was setting in front of our house the next morning. G. Guffey | |||
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Many of the Hodgdon powders, as per the list below, are made in Australia by ADI manufacturing owned by Thales Australia Limited, so Hodgdon don't actually have a monopoly particularly for their own branded powders. ADI / Hodgdon Propellants ADI Powder/Hodgdon naming AS30N.................Clays Trail Boss............Trail Boss AS50N.................International AP70N.................Universal AR2205...............H4227 AR2207...............H4198 AR2219...............H322 BM2..................Benchmark AR2206H..............H4895 AR2208...............Varget AR2209...............H4350 AR2213SC.............H4831 / H4831SC AR2217...............H1000 AR2225...............Retumbo AR2218...............H50BMG | |||
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I believe Alliant (once Hercules) is still separate from Hodgdon. Lots of old time powders still being made there like Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique, 2400; and all the ReLoader powders: 7, 10x, and 15 on up. | |||
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I think a few of those RL powders are imported. Made in Switzerland by Nitrochemie RL-17, 33 maybe more | |||
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I would like to know where all of the Alliant powder is going. Hell, I can even find Vitavouri on the local shelves now, but still not even a sniff of anything Reloader. I used to live right down the road from the old Hercules plant where some of it is/was made. But it is nowhere to be found. Sometimes I wonder if the Government is just paying these manufacturers WAY too much for their product for them to give a damn about selling to the rest of us. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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hodgdon doesn't own any powder making anything. they are just the handlers. powder is made in Canada, Australia, the U.S, Sweden, and other countries. oh. Alliant powder just hit the usual suspects shelves earlier today. I was looking at several RL rifle powders, green/red-dot, etc. brace yourself for the price increase. | |||
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Good lord. I just today paid 40.00 for H110 and 47.00 for a pound of 2400. I paid it but damn it is frustrating as hell. I keep a minimum of 2 pounds of my favorite pistol powders. A friend of mine in the industry says to expect it to stay like this for an year at least. If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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Yeah, it will stay like this for a year at least. Then it will go up. It sure as shit won't be going back down. The "industry" is good at bullshitting. | |||
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As long as we suffer unter Bidonvich and his socialist mandates, anything firearm related is gonna be ridiculous. Pancho LTC, USA, RET "Participating in a gun buy-back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids." Clint Eastwood Give me Liberty or give me Corona. | |||
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Along with EVERYTHING else, from fuel to eggs!!! ************************ Our independence is dying. | |||
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18 eggs are $8 here... insanity.... | |||
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Components apart from ADI powders are hard to find here, too, and stuff like cheese can go up 33% overnight. It is mostly to do with logistics when covid cuts your workforce but the war in Ukraine is putting up gas prices bigtime - and we are a major gas producer. Because even our Labor government pays credence to market forces, it is letting this stuff happen to a large extent. I imagine some of the squeeze on reloading stuff could be to do with the war, too, but what are we to do, let Putin reconstruct the Soviet Union? | |||
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That's the truth! My IRA has gone up over 30% since Biden was elected. And on top of that they just increased my Social Security check. My property has all increased in value and the value of my guns is through the roof. I can't stand much more of this! | |||
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RL-17 for sure. It is sold also as Eicho 17 or Reload Swiss 60. RL-15 is the same as Norma 203B for example (Maybe, Norma 203B has tighter tolerances). But the same powder. It is also maybe the same as Bofors RP3 and RWS R903. RL-19 is Norma 204, maybe Bofors RP4 and RWS R904. RL-22 is Norma MRP, maybe Bofors RP5 and RWS R905 This is what I know. So it looks like 15, 19 and 22 at least are made by Norma or someone else in Europe, 17 is made by Swiss Nitrochemie and sold as Reload Swiss RS60 here. Jiri | |||
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For the first time in a couple of years we got a big shipment of Allient, I bought what was left, two pounds of each, Varget, H4895, RL-19, 15 and 16, they beat me to the rL-22 and CFE 223..Twin FAlls Idaho, Reds TRading post.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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You and me both. Almost all my rifles love Alliant and can't find it anywhere. Since I have a FFL I have signed up to be notified when distributors get it and not a peep for last 6 months. If people are getting it its old stock from some wharehouse. I have emailed Alliant and get the runaround about it. Luckily the Hogdon powders I use I have been able to find with patience. | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Westrnhunter: I would like to know where all of the Alliant powder is going. A LOT of it is going to South Africa, as I saw racks full of Reloader powders there. Remember, forgivness is easier to get than permission. | |||
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Chip shortage disallowing non-Union port truckers World wide hording Import restrictions? | |||
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I just want some more Reloder 26 and 33 please!!!! I just paid an outrageous amount for an 8 pound keg of Vihtavuori N570 but my 26N absolutely sings with that stuff so I'm set with that for awhile. Zeke | |||
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All that and more probably. The powder companies will do nothing that might reduce the price of their product. | |||
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I'm still trying to figure out how they [hodgdon] are running 24/7 with overtime and hiring new employees. meanwhile back on the home front...LOL production has not been increased. | |||
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