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I wouldn't. I have read numerous times about the issue of tumbling breaking up the powder and allowing it to burn quicker. I have never tried it and don't plan to. A little steel wool will clean it pretty quick. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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If you just want to put em in to clean up after loading for a couple minutes should be okay. What kind of rounds are we talking about? And we are talking about a vibratory tumbler correct? Also use a good amount of media and don't cram a lot of rounds in there. Smedley ______________________ Smedley  ______________________ From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.' B.H.Obullshitter ------------------------------------ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" Winston Churchill ------------------------------------ "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." Samuel Adams ------------------------------------ Facts are immaterial to liberals. Twisted perceptions however are invaluable. ------------------------------------ We Americans were tired of being thought of as dumb, by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November 2008 and removed all doubt.....let's not do it again in 2012 please. | |||
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Yes.....they can.....and it's been tested. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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yes... please do a search on tumbling live rounds jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I agree with Ramrod340; Sierra manual no. 5 says that it must not be done (page 125) | |||
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Hello, There are lots of people who do put loaded rounds in their case cleaner device, vibrator or tumbler, but would advise against it. I have no idea what it does other than cleaning and that is the part that I would avoid. The not knowing part!! It is not a suggested practice and believe the only place a loaded round should be placed other than a storage box, would be the chamber of the firearm when preparing to discharge the round. The unknown with miniature bombs is a bit scary. | |||
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Seems we beat this horse every few months. https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tp.../977109033#977109033 Had the same mix of opinions then as well. I search the web yesterday. Found about a 50/50 mix of yes and no. Sounds like one of those personal dicisions. However, most problems listed appeared to be from longer periods of tumbling. Like Jeffe says I'm sure the ammo is tumbled at the plant. It just doesn't set well with my conservative nature so I'll continue to pass. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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 Look at the post by DOC 3 sept. 05 and the tests done by me.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Sorry to all who have seen this topic a hundred times. I was just watching a video of production manufacturing and it seems a vibratory bowl is used to stand up the brass and get it in line, flip primers and get them in line, flip bullets and get them in line, and then to get the finished round in it's packageing. Seems everything is jiggled quite a bit at the factory. I have no intention of doing my loads. Mine are clean enough as is. ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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Hey bud no this prosess is for spent rounds no live primers if you will read any tumbler intro. it says not to try this and i follow all guide lines get a book and read be safe | |||
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Got a book.....about fifty!! Read.....every day!! Safe????? That aint no damn fun! ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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Another case of letting some non-shooting lawyer write your instruction books. Or, worse yet, letting some rag writer with a tiny bit of knowledge do it for you. One of the last processes at the factory is to tumble the finished rounds to remove manufacturing oils and to shine. Every so often, some guy with a lot of time on his hands will ask about transporting ammo in the car (which would be the same basic thing as running them thru a tumbler). Seems some rag writer opined that the powder would grind against itself and create a powder with a different burn rate which, of course, would blow you away, leaving behind nothing but a smoking pair of Gucci hunting boots. When you stop and think how many miles and miles that powder is transported via truck and train, its apparent that this idea is also total bullshit. | |||
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i just tumbled some the other day. works real good and makes em nice n pretty. gotta have em pretty ya know. otherwise the deer don't like it.  Gun control is hitting your target. | |||
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0000 steel wool will clean them faster and better than tumbling. May want to give it a try. Good Luck Reloader | |||
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Agree with IWZBEEMAN I have been tumbling them for years my last hunt I drove 4000 miles round trip and if any of you have driven on I-40 that's worst then any tumbler,That old powder crap is just that, get one grain of stick powder and try to brake it with your finger nail,think about how hard it's to cut with a powder measure. | |||
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I've tumbled some loaded ammo after my bottle of bore cleaner leaked onto some zip lok baggies of ammo in my range bag,that was one slimey molten mess,,I put the tumbler outside and tumbled them 'till clean,,maby an hour,,The tumbler did'nt blow up,,The gun went through the ammo fine,,if need be i'd do it again,,Clay | |||
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I tumble mine for 15mins with 0 problems. *We Band of .338 ers*.NRA Member | |||
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What is the point of cleaning rounds after loading? To remove your own fingerprints? Don't you reapply your fingerprints when you pull the rounds out of the tumbler and once again when you handle the rounds at the range? Should we use white gloves when handling rounds? | |||
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I never used to worry about cleaning my loads, until they got so grungy I couldn't find the empties after taking a shot. I've tumbled loaded 270, 243 and 223 loaded cartridges overnight, and haven't noticed any difference in pressures... Then again, because of storage limitations, my ammo lives in the back of my 4x4 (in locked cases)... some of it's probably travelled anything up to 20,000km, much of it on rough dirt... I figure if the army can chuck the stuff around all over the world, it ain't gonna hurt being in the back of a truck... I reckon tumbling would be much gentler on the powder... ******************************** A gun is a tool. A moron is a moron. A moron with a hammer who busts something is still just a moron, it's not a hammer problem. Daniel77 | |||
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My old man is like ur old man, had alot of old sayings, heres one for u. Stupid people should'nt breed, the world would be full of smarter people. Got kids ??? | |||
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My you are a charmer aren't you? Yes I have 6 children. The oldest (50)is a hortaculturalest, The next owns a very lucrative photo studio, next owns a construction company, next retired to be come a devoted Mom, next retired this year after 20 years in the Marines. was active in Desert shield , desert storm , Samalia, Bosnia, Afganistan and Iraq, The youngest is a devoted wife and mother. How many children were you told that you fathered? Have a good life if it's not too late.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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There is always some bozo that might tumble his loaded rounds forget them and go to bed. The next morning he turns off the tumbler and put the ammo away. This same bozo may have tumbled the loaded ammo long enough to turn some of the powder into fines. Then he wonders why he has a blown case head. | |||
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Ever shake a "full" can of powder? It seems to move around inside pretty good, don't it? Ever watch freight be delivered, or transported? I'll let y'all make the connection for yourselves.... I've tumbled loaded ammo plenty of times. I don't do it regularly, or to "all" my ammo. But I've done it, and will probably continue to do it whenever I think it's necessary. It's got nothing to do with fingerprints on ammo (what the !@%$#&%). I don't do THAT kind of shooting!  Si tantum EGO eram dimidium ut bonus ut EGO memor | |||
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ireload2 Before you open your pie hole and insert foot again do a little test load a dummy round put in tumbler for 8-16-24 hrs what ever then pull it apart and check the powder it will look just like when you first put it in. Before the rounds leave the federal plant they toss them in what looks like a big cement mixer. | |||
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What you are refering to is probably a vibratory feeder or cleaner. If so, and I think it is, you have presented a strong case to negate unfounded fear in viratory cleaning of loaded ammo. We'll probably go through this again next year and if it helps anyone; that's OK. rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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I've done it on some 1950's era 8mm and nothing bad happened. But that was on that powder and I didn't know any better at the time. On some other type of powder it might have not turned out well. I look at it this way. It's like passing another vehicle on a curve. You might do it and not get killed once or a hundred times, but you don't know whne that one time where the other car is coming might be. If I have to polish up loaded cartridges for some reason now, I use the 0000 steel wool method described above. It's fast, safe, and allows you to concentrate on the part of the brass that may need the most attention. | |||
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Had to laugh, guess some these nay sayers obviously haven't been on tanks or APCs or other tracks with cans of ammo in them. If a couple miles down a bad road in one of them doesn't equal hours in a vibrater I'll eat my shorts. The Army and Marines (not to mention the Germans and Russians) have been "vibrating" ammo this way for years with no mention or even a hint of any problem. Also I owned and used jeeps for years. Always swore if you owned a Jeep you need to invest in two things; a parts store and Preperation H! A couple days on the back floor of a jeep over non existant roads is worse than any tumbler/vibrator. I tumble and vibrate loaded ammo to clean it, have done it for years and will contimnue to do so, no problem. Larry Gibson | |||
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It seems that no one has ever heard of a serious event with tumbled rounds, and the examples of rounds carried for thousands of miles across rough terrain are compelling too. One thing I don't remember seeing is any mention of an effect on velocity or accuracy consistency, even if there may not be any serious safety issues. It may be that the amount of "travel wear" contributes to the inconsistency we get in older (as in surplus, but perhaps handloaded if it's been bumping around for a few years) ammo. I would suspect that bumping around on rough roads would have a better chance of affecting the brass and concentricity than a vibratory cleaner would. | |||
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Yes, Cleaning brass after loading to just remove lubricant is fine. Just don't leave them cleaning longer than 15-30 minutes. I use a little mineral spirits in with my media. Never had on problem. When I am doing a large batch I spin them in my cement mixer without the paddles. Do you think Winchester, Remington, Federal has a bunch of mexicans with steel wool cleaning brass before it is boxed? Dream on Longshot | |||
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