I hear thru the grapevine Speer is quitting selling bullets and going to loaded ammo sales only. Is this a line of balderdash or the straight goods?

I've not heard anything about that,but who knows?I don't know anyone who uses their projectiles,except one guy that loads Gold Dots to practice with instead of buying factory loaded GD's and he doesn't pratice with them most of the time.

I hope it's not true. I use 8-10 of those 500 pc bulk pack 2nds in my 270 Win every year for pest destruction. There's a BIG difference between paying 5 cents per projectile and what they ask for the stuff in the Speer boxes.

I suspect a touch of the blarney stone has brushed up against that rumor.

Sure hope it ain't true! We need their bullets for a lot of uses!

There was a posting on www.thebulletguy.com website a few days ago (now taken down) that Speer had announced that due to high demand for loaded ammunition it would no longer be making bulk-pack or "seconds" available. No mention of any changes to their normal "boxed" bullet sales.

I take this to mean that Speer no longer finds it economical to give bulk discounts or to sell their products as "seconds" (since true "seconds" are rejected and never leave the factory). In other words, high metal and transportation prices have Speer realigning their retailing strategies and they will be trying to sell all of their product as "firsts" in conventional 50 or 100 piece boxes, no more plastic bags.

The combination of high metal prices and the policy of spraying much of Central Asia with lead and copper has created the current "tightness" in bullet production. Look for more bullet manufacturers to either stop or limit their sale of bulk/seconds.

I have gone to the sportsmans warehouse several times looking for Grand Slams and found their supply of All Speer getting short with lots of holes. Hornady and Sierra were right up to standard stocks. I also jumped around the net and found Speer in not real good supply. The bulletguy.com has some killer prices on Speer bulk stock in limited selection right now.(don't wait -- hurry now!) Even if Speer is still in production it is worth looking at the prices there!

I've never heard of Speer selling "Seconds", but I have used a whole bunch of their "Over-Runs".

Over-Runs are made when it is close to the end of a shift and it is best to keep the equipment running rather than shut it down and only get 1/2 of the Die Re-Set completed. So, instead of getting 100K of a specific Bullet, they might end up with 124K.

The company I always deal with for Speer Over-Runs is:

LoLo Sporting Goods
(208) 743-1031
Gordy, Keith, or Dave

or is this marketing, as I am dead certain the "fulton armoury" bulk pack of 475 pictol bullets (speer gold dots) I last received are blems....

so, is midway buying up all their blems?
jeffe

When Blount (which owned Speer, RCBS, CCI, etc.)sold to ATK they stoped making any seconds immediately. Some of ous wondered how to does one set up machines, etc. without having slip-ups? Anyway we use to buy the Speer second from Lolo's Sporting Goods here in Lewiston. I have shot thousands of them and still have quite a few in the cals. I shoot. The seconds have completely dried up. I've ask friends fairly high up at Speer and they're only comment is that the new owners(ATK) don't make anymore seconds, then they wink. Pedro

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Originally posted by Pedro in Idaho:
I've ask friends fairly high up at Speer and they're only comment is that the new owners(ATK) don't make anymore seconds, then they wink. Pedro

No they probably just sell them with the firsts and no one know the difference.

Over the years I've bought lots of seconds. Ever seen a V-Max with a canalure? I have about 2k of 55 Gr. V-Max's that I bought as seconds that do. What can I say they fly right, are very accurate and still perform like the explosive bullet they are. Got them for $72 a K.