who loads with H335 and BLC-2 for .223 loads using 69.gr SMBHP..?gave up with them ..loaded with VARGET got best results 24.3gr could not get up passed 22.3 with those other two powders using lake city brass. will FC brass or Winchester civilain brass work better ..so who gets good result ?

I have use jugs of Bal-c with 52gr bullets but not with the heavy ones.

I load WC846 in 223, which is supposed to be pretty similar. It works well with 70gr VLD and 50gr V-max.

blc-2 should work really well in 223. What problem are you seeing?

I've used a lot of 844 and 846 in the several .223s I have had , with bullets up to 75 grains .Had excellent results. roger

WCC844 has killed a lot of Pdogs for me. I had one jug of 846 that was super hot blew primers at minimum charge weigh had to go 20% below that to use it.

BLC2 is my go to powder for 223 w/ 55gr bullets.

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Originally posted by Pancho:
BLC2 is my go to powder for 223 w/ 55gr bullets.

Depends on who the neighbor's wife is servicing !!!! roger

I use BLC-2, Varget, and CFE-223 for 52 grain and 55 grain bullets for my .223 Remington's. 27 grains for each with the later powder my favorite because the barrel fouls much less. Good Shooting.

Forty years ago I used a lot of BL-c2 and H335 but it was in a 308, 180 gr bullets. Approached 30-06.

i've used 26.3 grains of h335 and a 55 gr nosler bt forever. if i get a 223 that won't shoot well with that load i sell the gun

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
WCC844 has killed a lot of Pdogs for me. I had one jug of 846 that was super hot blew primers at minimum charge weigh had to go 20% below that to use it.

thats is the same problem I'm having even tried lowing neck tension,could not get passed 20.grains with lake city brass.

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Originally posted by Ray B:
Forty years ago I used a lot of BL-c2 and H335 but it was in a 308, 180 gr bullets. Approached 30-06.

originaly h335and blc-2 were what was made for .308 I believe ,I save my varget for .308

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Originally posted by jpl:
I load WC846 in 223, which is supposed to be pretty similar. It works well with 70gr VLD and 50gr V-max.

blc-2 should work really well in 223. What problem are you seeing?

blowing primers at 19.2 gr blc2 ... I gave up ,I use Imr 4064 in heavy .223 bullets , don't meter worth a hoot...

Lots of great info ,Thanks everybody .223 are powder sensitive to point one grain with H335 and BLC-2 I've notice

I use BL-C2 in my AR,s with 55 to 75gr bullets. No issues. LC99 brass with the heavy bullet as well. Got to 26.0 in my gun YMMV

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Originally posted by scoutsout:
blowing primers at 19.2 gr blc2 ...

This is atypical, so I believe you've got something going on. A fast lot of powder, a tight bore, tight neck, brass needs to be trimmed shorter, heavy fouling, oversize bullets, etc. There are a few different things that can cause high pressures...

Hodgdon shows a starting load of 24.5 for 69gr Sierra HPBT. How about a pic of one of your blown primers?

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
WCC844 has killed a lot of Pdogs for me. I had one jug of 846 that was super hot blew primers at minimum charge weigh had to go 20% below that to use it.

what type of brass ? I tried lake city could not get passed 19.2 stared showing signs of pressure signs... somebody said use cillvian brass

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Originally posted by Pancho:
BLC2 is my go to powder for 223 w/ 55gr bullets.

what type of brass?

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Originally posted by NV Guide:
I use BL-C2 in my AR,s with 55 to 75gr bullets. No issues. LC99 brass with the heavy bullet as well. Got to 26.0 in my gun YMMV

how far off of the groves or o.a.l with 75 gr.??

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Originally posted by phurley5:
I use BLC-2, Varget, and CFE-223 for 52 grain and 55 grain bullets for my .223 Remington's. 27 grains for each with the later powder my favorite because the barrel fouls much less. Good Shooting.

what type of brass?

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Originally posted by butchloc:
i've used 26.3 grains of h335 and a 55 gr nosler bt forever. if i get a 223 that won't shoot well with that load i sell the gun

and your go to brass?

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Originally posted by scoutsout:

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
WCC844 has killed a lot of Pdogs for me. I had one jug of 846 that was super hot blew primers at minimum charge weigh had to go 20% below that to use it.

thats is the same problem I'm having even tried lowing neck tension,could not get passed 20.grains with lake city brass.

i started at 19.0 showed signs of pressure with LC brass

i don't use this particular load, but i use h335 from 30 mauser through 550 express -- not the perfect powder for all of them, but i don't have to have 10 different powders through the clinton, and then obama, droughts --

335 should be great for this application,blc2 would be too slow

I use both in my 222 and 223. The heavy bullets I have used are the 60 gr. Hornady and the same in GS Customs HVHPs...I get the highest velocity with H-335 than any other powder that I have tried, its my deer and antelope bullet and powder in my 222, 223, and most of all my 6x45..I don't think you will have any trouble at all working up fine loads with H335 in your rifle..Use the chronograph if possible, that will tell you the real story.