Need some adult loads for the 8x57 (.323)
Will be using some bulk Remington 185gr. Core lock.
I did a search, and did not find too many. At least I did not. If there is, could some one provide a link?

Thanks....

I have tons of loading data for the 8x57 (both of them), but nothing on the 185 grain bullets...

You can interpolate that loading data to find a load

Can you interpolate and extrapolate?
My guess is that the bolt will get sticky with 185 gr and 4895 at 50 ~ 53 gr. Reducing by 6% would make 47 gr a reasonable max load.

IRM4895 in 8x57JS
1) "Sierra" [newer than 1971]: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 175 gr 48.1 gr 2600 fps
2) "Sierra 50 th Anniversary" 1995: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 175 gr 48.1 gr 2600 fps
3) "Hornady Handbook" 1973: 150 gr 52.5 gr 2900 fps 170 gr 50.1 gr 2700 fps
4) "Hornady 5 th" 2000[ H4895]: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 170 gr 47.9 gr 2600 fps
5) "Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders volume 2" 1966 PO Ackley: 150 gr 54 gr 2900 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2700 fps
5.5) "Speer 6" 1964: 150 gr 54 gr 2864 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2704 fps 225 gr 49 gr 2452 fps
6) "Speer 7" 1966: 150 gr 54 gr 2864 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2704 fps 225 gr 49 gr 2452 fps
7) "Speer 8" 1970: 150 gr 54 gr 2864 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2704 fps
8) "Speer 9" 1974: 150 gr 48 gr 2849 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps
9) "Speer 11" 1987: 150 gr 48 gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps
10) "Speer 12" 1994: 150 gr 48gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps
11) "Speer 13" 1998: 150 gr 48 gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps
12) "Lyman 40th" 1955: 154 gr 48 gr 2776 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2600 fps 227 gr 45 gr 2350 fps
13) "Lyman 41 st" 1957: 154 gr 48 gr 2776 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2600 fps 227 gr 45 gr 2350 fps
14) "Lyman 43 rd" 1964: 150 gr 54 gr 2920 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2695 fps 225 gr 49 gr 2410 fps
15) "Lyman 45th" 1970: 150 gr 51 gr* 2824 fps compressed 170 gr 49 gr* 2672 fps compressed 225 gr 46 gr* 2341 fps compressed
16) "Lyman 47th" 1992: 150 gr 51+ gr 2824 fps compressed 170 gr 49+gr 2672 fps compressed
17) "Handloading" William Davis and the NRA 1981 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 46 gr 2640 <50k cup
18) IMR catalog 1990 [current]: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup
19) "Modern Reloading" Richard Lee 1996: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup
20) "Hodgdon No. 27" 1998: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup
21)My own shooting notes 2001: 200 gr 44 gr no sign of pressure,
OAL=3.16", neck sized RP brass 200 gr 46 gr top hat primer [CCI 200] 200
gr 47 gr 1.5" at 100 yards 3 shot group [best] 200 gr 49 gr sticky bolt
200 gr 50gr bulge in case gets closer to web. I should not repeat this
load. 200 gr 51 gr very sticky bolt, primer pocket hole diameter
increase is measurable.

3031 and 170 gr 8x57JS:
IMR catalog 1990 [current] 170 gr Hornady RN 32.5 gr 3031 2105 fps 36100 cup
"Speer 8" 1970: 170 gr 47 gr 3031, 2771 fps
"Speer 9" 1974: 170 gr 44 gr 3031, 2600 fsp
"Lyman 40" 1955 and "Lyman 47" 1992: 170 gr 47 gr 3031 2766 fps
Hornady 1973 170 gr 47.2 gr 3031 2700 fps
"Hornady 5" 2000 170 gr 46.3 gr 3031 2600 fps
P.O. Ackley 1966: 170 gr 43 gr 3031 2600 fps

I use 180gr Nosler BT/BT's in an 8x57JS W/CCI mag primers in Winchester brass with N150 a Vhithvouri powder at 50 gr. (worked up in my rifle). These loads are safe in my rifle at 2560fps. Good enough for me, and accurate.

I suggest you start with Speer or Nosler 200-grain bullet data and work up until you get an accurate load.....

Mauserkid,

Go to http://www.ladedaten.info/page2.php3 and choose "Ladedaten f�r 19 Pulversorten" (Loading data for 19 powders). I think that there will be some suitable data there.

Best regards,

Fritz

49.0gr(C) IMR 4064 behind a Nosler 180gr Ballistic Tip. Cases formed from once fired "06" military brass

2800fps Sd < 10fps

[ 10-13-2002, 03:24: Message edited by: wildcat junkie ]

I have loaded 46g of IMR4064 behind a 196g Norma bullet. This is not a hot load but is very accurate in my Turkish mauser with a 3-9x40. I was testing it out today and shot a coyote at 150 yards and another at 175 yards. I can put 3 shots inside the inch at 100 yards.

The american loads for this great caliber are quite "whimpy", you might go to http://www.lapua.com/vihtavuori/index.html for the "real stuff". By the way, their powders are the best I ever used.
Weidmann�s Heil, Dirk

Jerry use a CCI-250 primer and you won't have that problem with AA-2460

I loaded up 49gr. of Varget. I have no pressure signs.
Going to do more tests later in the week..

Later....