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I was just wondering, for those who shoot any Barnes X Bullet, how much they seat their bullets off of the the rifling?

PLEASE INCLUDE THE CALIBER YOU USE


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why?

if you seat a barnes X bullet .03 off the rifling, it will generally pattern (not group) like shooting a .410 buckshot load....

move it back to . 065 and .002 increments back, and it shoots like a house on fire...

this seems to be the "secret sauce" for those that get good results from barnes in terms of accuracy and those that don't...

what caliber? quite a few.. mostly i load these in 708, 300 win mag, and 358 win... excellent in 416 and larger

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.300 win mag


-Everybody has a dream hunt, mine just happens to be for a Moose.-

-The 30-06 is like a perfect steak next to a campfire, a .300 Win Mag is the same but with mushrooms and a baked potato-
 
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264, 270, 7 mag, 30-06, 300 win, 338 calibers.

They all shoot the TSX's best. On the 270 and 30-06 the Accubonds are a very close second.

All seated .05" off the lands except the 270 at .065" (because of magazine).


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Magnum 61...

You're geeting good advice...Barnes recommends you start at .05 or 50/1000


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Good, asap I'm going to try that with my loads. I'm going to try the 168gr. TSX in my .300 win mag. I"ve always seated them .010 off of the rifling before and they either were buck shot groups or tack-drivers and always on max load, .5 or better accuracy, I loved it.

I used a Forster Ultra Seater and a OAL Gauge to seat them that close and I never had a chambering problem hunting.

THANKS GUYS!


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I use 250gr BX for my 9,3 x 62.

Bullets seated farther away from the glands, 0.078, deliver clover 3 shot groups.

That is if the velocity is kept in the region of 2300fps, higher velocities tend to open upthe groups.
 
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