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I know, but what the hell. I just wanted to do it. Thought I would try to duplicate the "Dangerous Game" solid load by a couple of companies. Did not concider it until I saw the absurd prices that were being charged for thier rounds. So,I decided to set out to safetly duplicate or exceed them at a fraction of the price. This is just the start. .45-70 Government Rifle- Browning/Winchester 1886 Carbine, 22in. Bbl. Bullet- 500Gr. Hornady DGS Solid Powder- H322 Case- Winchester Primer- Fed. 215GM COL- 2.55" LEE factory crimp die used with heavy crimp. Chrono. 12 Ft. from Muzzle, Temp. 69 Degs. Since this is preliminary testing, only 3-shot strings used. Charge- 39.0 Grs. FPS- 1427,1446,1443. ES- 19, SD- 10, Avg.- 1438 Charge- 40.0 Grs. FPS- 1447,1455,1432. ES- 23, SD- 11, Avg.- 1444 Charge- 41.0 Grs. FPS- 1489,1491,1468. ES- 23, SD- 12, Avg.- 1482 LEE crimp die applied a beautiful strong crimp. There was no movement of bullets. Recoil was not bad at all suprisingly. All charges showed movement within the case. No compression at all. I do not think at this time hitting the target velocity of between 1600-1700 Fps will be a problem with reasonable pressures. Note* No magical components are being used. | ||
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I tried the same thing about 8 years ago. Rifle was a single shot H&R rifle. My load was 55 grains of IMR4064 for velocity of 1700 fps....I worked up this load so start low if you try it. Jason | |||
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I've always wondered what level of loads the H&R could tolerate. To date, I've always stuck with the middle level "lever action" ones in my manuals. I don't know that I'd really care to go a lot hotter than I am right now (350 grain bullet at ~2000 fps). I can't imagine running across any animal in my neck of the woods that could possibly require more horsepower, unless something escapes from the zoo. | |||
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Kjjm4 Trust me those 500 @ 1700 fps recoil was BAD in a 7.5 lbs rifle. You talk about 350 @ 2000 fps. That was my load I used to elk hunt many years ago. As far as pressure and H&R I know they make the same rifle with high power high pressure rounds. All I know MY rifle showed no pressure sign. Now that I have a 458 Lott I am sure my days of hot loads in my H&R are done Jason | |||
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Update, Increase in charge weight and temp. change the only differences from last test. Temp. 43 Degs. 43.0 Grs. FPS- 1544, 1534, 1532 44.0 Grs. FPS- 1585, 1576, 1583 45.0 Grs. FPS- 1612, 1624, 1608 46.0 Grs. FPS- 1640, 1644, 1644 I will be trying a 10 shot string with the 46.0 grain load. No pressure signs were noticed and extraction was normal. Pictures are of 46.0 Gr. load. | |||
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Colt. How is the recoil....getting up there isn't it Jason | |||
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I put a new stock on the 1886. I included a 1" Deccelerator butt pad. The recoil is not as bad as you would think. | |||
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