On the Powder Valley Inc. site they have a "new" powder, Accurate 85, for 69.00 for 8# plus the added $20. Any one tried this powder? Can this powder be used in a 204? Thanks, BA

http://accuratepowder.com/datapowder_dp85.htm

Same burn rate as Hunter. Too slow for the 204.

Thanks Steve, BA

Has anyone used this powder yet? If so what can you tell us about it? Accurate ? Clean or dirty? A lot of BAARooom? What? Anybody?

roger

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Originally posted by bartsche:
Has anyone used this powder yet? If so what can you tell us about it? Accurate ? Clean or dirty? A lot of BAARooom? What? Anybody?

roger

I have a bunch of 300WSM loaded and ready to go. Just haven't made it to the range yet. I'll let you know as soon as I can.

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Originally posted by steve4102:

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Originally posted by bartsche:
Has anyone used this powder yet? If so what can you tell us about it? Accurate ? Clean or dirty? A lot of BAARooom? What? Anybody?

roger

I have a bunch of 300WSM loaded and ready to go. Just haven't made it to the range yet. I'll let you know as soon as I can.

Anything yet, Steve? roger

Hopefully this weekend. It is supposed to warm up to about zero. If the wind stays away, I'm going shooting.

I've got some on the way to feed a K-31. I'll post again as soon I get something to report.

Well, I got a chance to test some DP 85 this weekend. I loaded 300WSM 165gr, 30-06 165gr, 7MM-06 160gr and 6.5x55 140gr. The weather was cold (-4) and windy. I can't really comment on DP 85's accuracy too much. I was a bit off my game with the cold and wind.

I found that DP 85 is slower than Hunter.

In my 300WSM grain for grain Hunter has about 85 to 90fps more. Max load in this gun has DP 85 2.5 grains more than Hunter's max with velocities still a bit slower.

The difference in velocity in my 06 was much closer. Grain for grain Hunter averaged only about 30fps more. I didn't have a chance to check for high pressure.

In the 7MM-08 Hunter averaged 65fps more. Max pressure for this rifle had DP 85 1.7gr higher than Hunter.


In my 6.5x55 CZ I didn't test any Hunter. Ramshot data for Hunter/140gr is 43gr. I went all the way to 46.5 of DP 85 with no signs of pressure. 46gr of DP 85 produced avg velocity of 2699fps.

Like I said not much of a report. Accuracy is the most important thing and I really can't comment on that much. I can say that it didn't shoot any worse the anything else I tried.

Thanks, Steve. roger

Anyone have an update for this post. I have also been looking at this powder, since it is about 1/3 less than other comparable powders. It seems to have a broad base of uses, from 22:250 .243 25:06 .270 7mag. 30:06 .300 mag. etc. How dense is it compared to H450 or win. 785. Where does the burn rate fit in?? Any comment??

I am using it in .270 .243 .243 AI great velocity and good accuracy

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Anyone have an update for this post.

Go to Find and type in DP 85. a lot of stuff; more to come. roger

Just for shits and giggles in a .223, I loaded 28gr.of DP85 lightly compressed, behind a 62 gr. law enforcement bullet, a CCI Mag. primer, case LC 04, oal= 2.285.

Results: Mild, sooty, 2838 to 2916 FPS.3 shot 3/4" group at 100 yds. No evidence of residue other than soot, but I doubt if all the powder burned. roger

.243 WSSM, 87gr.V Max., WLRM, DP 85, 42, 42.5,43, 43.5, 44, 44.5. Group variance with load change was obvious.Group went from just below MOA to .3" and up to just under MOA again at 100 yds.

Win. Mod. 70, Stealth II. All charges were weighed. roger

FYI. DP 85 22-250, Bull barrel, very little wind, 100yds. 55gr FBHP Berger, Everything the same except powder charge. Started at 39grains dp85 and went to 42 grains dp85 in 1/2 grain increments. Velocity went from 3400 fps to someting over 3700 fps. The largest group was .8" (42gr.) and the smallest 3 shot group was under .4". I chronographed all 7 loads one after the other, hot barrel. The 7 shots of different powder charges was an easy 1/2" group. The 42 gr. loading showed little or no over pressure. Three of three 22-250s performs just super with it.

The DP 85 can still be had for$69.00/8# One source is Powder Valley. I just received another 48# Thur. Soon it will be gone as is all the rest of the surplus powders. roger

.243, Ruger Varmint, 100yds.cases RP, Ni., CCI#34 primers.100gr. sp., Mid South Bulk bullets. OAL=2.830". The only variable was the DP85 powder charges which ranged from 38.5gr. to 43.5gr.

38.5gr., 2560 to 2668fps., Dirty 3"group

40gr., 2740 to 2779 fps. So-So not great.

40.5gr. 2754 to 2803 fps. 3 shot 1" group.

41gr., 2740 to 2851fps., 5 shot 2" group.

43.5gr. 3010 to 3030 fps. NOT HOT!, 3 shot 3/4" group.

.257 Roberts Ruger varmint Tange safety circa 1972,

90gr. Sierra hp. (midway bulk?)., 51gr. DP85, wlrm. primer.,3256 fps.1.5" group at 100yds.No pressure signs.

87gr. TNT Speer, 50gr. DP85, Wlrm., 3330fps. 1" group at 100yds.

22-250 Ruger Varmint (new)

41gr. DP85., 52gr hp. Berger, 3634fps., 7 shot .700" group at 100yds.

roger

Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone..

>270, Mod 200 Stevens.Virgin primed federal cases, 130gr. sp speer bulk from Midway.,Oal=3.273" Powder DP85.

50gr.,-2689 to 2730 fps. fps. 3 shot 1" group @ 100yds., clean,

51gr., 2771 to 2839 fps. 2" group at 215yds.

51.5 gr., 2799 to 2896 fps., 3 shot 1 1/4" group @ 100 yds. 3" group @ 300yds. also a 3 shot 3/4" group @ 100yds.really good stuff.
52gr., 2828 to 2886 fps., 3 shot 3/4" group @ 100yds.

54gr., 2894 to 2922 fps. EZ lift, not great.

55gr. , 2925 to 2947 fps. 3" group@ 100.

55.6gr., 2954 to 2972 fps. 4" group @ 100 yds.


The last three loads were fired with a hot, dirty barrel.No real pressure signs were obvious. roger

Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone..

250-3000, Mod. 200 Stevens, 24" Shaw light barrel, deep throat.90gr. FBhp. midway bulk bullets, WW.cases, CCI 34 primers, OAL=2.564", DP85 powder.

39gr., mild clean., 2730 to 2776 fps. nice repeatability.

39.5gr. 2776 to 2804 fps., 4 shot 1" group at 100yds.

40gr., 2809 to 2843 fps., 3 shot 1 1/4" group at 100 yds. 2 shot 1" group @ 200 yds.

40.5 gr., 2836 to 2863 fps., 4 shot 2" group at 100 yds.

41gr., 2865 to 2876 fps. mild, 4 shot 1 1/4" group@ 100 yds.

More later. roger

Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone..

250-3000, same as above, WW cases #34 cci primers, oal=2.740"DP 85 powder, 110gr fbhp Berger bullet.

39 gr.2693 to 2704 fps., 3 shot .5" group @ 100 yds., < 2" group @ 200 yds., Mild, a little soot.

39.5gr., 2689 to 2727 fps. 3 shot .5" group @ 100 yds.5 shot 1 1/2" group @ 100yds. strong cross wind.

40gr. 2715 to 2735 fps., 5 shot .5" group@ 100yds.

40.5gr., 2751 to 2775 fps., 4 shot .75" group @ 100 yds.5 shot 1 1/4" group.,(flyer).

41gr., 2776 to 2787 fps., 5 shot 1" group., Not max.

These were shot with a really dirty barrel. The Berger bullets just seem to be always better Than any bulk bullets. roger

Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone..