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How will be the charge for training shooting of this caliber, using cheap light bullets, 90-100 gr? It is supposed to use bullets for Makarov, normal, and cast. | ||
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Powder charge? Probably about 8 grains of Alliant Red Dot or an equivalent flake powder. This load is recommended in many infantry cartridges. The 9.3X64 might need an extra grain or two. You can look for loads on Cast Bullet web sites and in the Lyman Cast Bullet Manual | |||
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But I thought that 9mm Makarov bullets were .358 inch and the 9.3 are .366 inch? Will they still work? If they do, I might try this in my 9.3 x 62 .... after I get my stock Doug Wilhelmi NRA Life Member | |||
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Makarov has 9.3 mm - the only of 9 mm pistols. The rest of this group have the caliber of about 9.0 mm. And the diameter of the base of Mak brass is equal to the diameter of the Para - that's such a great miracle of Manitou. Naturally, this light charge can be applied to 62 and 74. But again, there are two cases : for FMJ Mak bullets and for cast ones - it is obvious that there are various options. Do I need a filler? Brass is very large. | |||
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Vashper, In part it will be determined by how much of a reduced load you want. Are you wanting to shoot the 100 gr bullets at 300m/s or 700 m/s? While the .30-06 has a smaller case capacity it could provide a good starting point as there are several references which include loads for 100 gr jacketed and cast bullets. Here is some data for the .30-06 from MODERN RELOADING - 2nd Edition - Richard Lee 100 gr jacketed bullet Vihtavouri N-540 55.4 gr 3076 fps 63.0 gr 3142 fps From LYMAN 49th Ed 110 gr cast bullet Unique 14.0 gr 1677 fps 19.0 gr 2331 fps Eric NRA Benefactor TSRA Life DRSS Brno ZP-149 45-120 NE | |||
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Sierra is .363, I read that Hornady is .365. Rainier used to make a .363 (I'd have to check the bag.) but it looks like they have discontinued it. A bad day at the range is better than a good day at work. | |||
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I've seen Hornady at 0.365 and Speer at 0.364 NRA Benefactor TSRA Life DRSS Brno ZP-149 45-120 NE | |||
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There are self-made adapter for shooting this caliber normal Makarov cartridge. So, seems like a regular pistol charge will suffice. But the question remains filler. | |||
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Do not use filler in bottleneck cases; too much room for error. Use 5744 powder; it does not need a filler for light loads. | |||
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Here are some schemes of adapters of various calibers: http://guns.allzip.org/topic/164/277501.html | |||
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That clarifies the matter. For such an adapter I would use a regular load for the particular pistol cartridge being used. There shouldn't be a need to use filler. Lyman 49th Edition with a 100 gr jacketed bullet Unique 3.0 grains 639 fps 4.1 grains 887 fps NRA Benefactor TSRA Life DRSS Brno ZP-149 45-120 NE | |||
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It's difficult to find a good turner for this: so better to use regular load in caliber brass | |||
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I've seen similar adapters to shoot .308 in .30-06 and pistol cartridges such as you've shown. I haven't really seen them in use. I expect it is due to the cost to purchase the device and then the hassle involved with having to load and unload the device, one at a time. When it is all said and done it is easier to use factory ammunition or to reload your own. NRA Benefactor TSRA Life DRSS Brno ZP-149 45-120 NE | |||
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