What do you guys do with moderate to heavy recoiling rifles and bullet tips getting flattened in the magazine. Do you try to come up with a load where the bullet is seated a little deeper or is it something you just live with?

Hey Sniper

For me, it's hard to deform those plastic tips of the Accubonds or the solid copper nose of the TSX's. If the bullet tips are hitting the front of the magazine during recoil, they are held in place by a light crimp from the Lee Factory Crimp Die.

What bullets are you experiencing this with?

Nosler Partitions.

Somewhere, I think it was here, I read where guys were using the TSX's and getting good expansion with the first shot but subsequent shots they TSX's were not opening due to the nose getting compressed during recoil. The MRX-s should remedy this. If they would only hurry and get them into circulation for all calibers.

Sniper

There are little gizmos that fit inside the magazine box that keep the cartridges from moving forward under recoil. They bear against the shoulder. I don't know if they're still made or who might have them, unfortunately.

Also, in the olden days, custom made rifles included a modification of the magazine box to accomplish the same thing. But little details like that are a lost art, sadly.

Ray

Browning box magazines all have a shoulder in the front of the box that bears against the shoulder of the case. No battered tips in those rifles!

Hey Sniper, Unless you plan to take shots beyond 400yds, it won't matter - even if you totally remove the Lead Tip from those Partitions.

Nothing at all wrong with doing a bit of Testing at various Seating Depths. You might even find your specific rifle shoots more accurately with the Bullet jumping a good distance to the Lands.

Best of luck to you.

I have shot 165 gr Black Tip bulles that were recovered from an ammo fire at a scrap yard.

The tips are bent around a corner.

They still shoot better groups in my Sav 110 30-06 than with 168 gr Sierra Match Kings.

What does it all mean?
The bent tip does not change the groups size much.

Benchrest techniqes are a waste of time for varminters.

Varminter techniqes are a waste of time for deer hunters.

Worrying about bent bullet tips for deer hunting is a waste of time.

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Hey Sniper

For me, it's hard to deform those plastic tips of the Accubonds or the solid copper nose of the TSX's. If the bullet tips are hitting the front of the magazine during recoil, they are held in place by a light crimp from the Lee Factory Crimp Die.

Ditto.


I just shot a 7RM Ruger for a fella the other day and his bullets were badly deformed after few shots. He'd bought several boxes of factory 150 Sierras(Fed. Prem.). The tips were mashed very flat and the rifle didn't seem to recoil too bad. We shaved the flat spots off w/ a knife blade sort of like sharpening a pencil. I told him he should consider using plastic tipped bullets.

I've never had a problem w/ tips deforming from recoil as much as deforming from feeding and more or less just nicking the lead.


Have any of you ever glued a small piece of rubber in the front of the mag box? Assuming your COAL would allow I would think that a piece of tire inner tube or similar may help but I haven't tried it.


Good Luck

Reloader

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Originally posted by Reloader:Have any of you ever glued a small piece of rubber in the front of the mag box? Assuming your COAL would allow I would think that a piece of tire inner tube or similar may help but I haven't tried it.

That, or a piece of leather, works to a small degree, but you always run the risk of the bullet point hanging up on the stuff and failing to feed. And, as you know, failures to feed ALWAYS happen at the worst time.

Ray

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Originally posted by Sniper:
... These are just used for hunting with shots ranging from 50-300 yards. ...

Hey Sniper, I always encourage folks to prove it to themselves. You can read about anything on the net, so of it is accurate and some is fullof beans.

Take 3 new(undamaged tips) cartridges, single load them and shoot a 300yd target. Then remove the Tips completely on 3 more and shoot them into a second Target at 300yds.

Pull the Targets, stack them over each other and look toward the sun.

What do you notice?

Best of luck to you.

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Originally posted by Sniper:
The holes are bigger on the removed tips? ...

Are you related to Woods???