Is it outdated? I bought a second one years ago and never used it. Worth anything or outdated?

If it still works properly, it still does the job.

Though some of the old ones were complicated to use, they might be more reliable than some modern stuff. I've got a ProChronoDLX that is user-friendly but I wonder about some readings.

It is the best chronograph before the new radar ones like the Garmin now.

It is the only one that works in our shooting tunnel.

Been using them for years.

Out side they are very reliable.

In our tunnel we had to install lights above the sky screens.

Also, they tend to miss smaller calibers a few times unless you shoot very close to the screen.

Which causes some to shoot them!

The new radar like the Garmin are years ahead.

I have had and used one regularly since the early '90s. It even works after I have shot up the sky screens!

great chrony, and if you can get one for a steal, it's not bad - the newer radar based chronies are superior in everyway, most especially ease of setup/take down ... as in turn it on, point it don range, and shoot -- no need to wait for a cease fire, and nothing down range to accidentally shoot

The Oehler 35 is the best start-stop electronic counter chronograph ever made, bar none. Its screen sensitivity is much superior to any other, and the ability to space the screens further apart allows a more precise velocity.

But that's like saying that the catapult was the best siege weapon to assault stone walls ever made. The new radar chronographs are in every way superior, and so far as user reports go, the Garmin is well ahead of its competitors in this regard.

If anyone needs a fine old Oehler 35, I've got two and will take very reasonable money for one of them.

It's NIB. IIRC I'd like to say ? under grand a decade a go.......dunno.

Sounds like it's not worth selling then. I'll just start using it with my bows.

Thanks for all the responses. Maybe see y'all in Nashville.

]Oehler 35 P works a shotgun shells while the radar ones do not.

Had one for years and it worked! Had no difficulty selling it here recently.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
]Oehler 35 P works a shotgun shells while the radar ones do not.

I can't see why the Garmin wouldn't work with shotshells, but I'll give mine a try and see. The Oehler seems to work quite well with shotshells, so maybe that's a reason to have both.

If you are going to, switch it to handgun mode.

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:

But that's like saying that the catapult was the best siege weapon to assault stone walls ever made.

just to be funny --- you spelled trebucket wrong

I’ve tried for kicks and giggles using my labradar with shotshells.

It gives very unusual results that are quite different than the oehler.

The oehler is kind of a PITA to set up now that I’m used to the radar chronograph.

From what I read the Garmin is probably the better chronograph but the joys of being an early adopter and all.

I have a Labradar and am on the verge of buying a Garmin.

But they are like ripe bananas these days.

I'm afraid something game-changing will become available the day after I buy the next one!

I would have no use for an Oehler anymore, unless I had a range like Saeed's and could set it up more or less easily and maybe even permanently.

Okay, just did a little experiment with my new Garmin and trusty old Oehler 35. The Oehler was set at about 9 feet instrumental distance from the muzzle and each shot recorded simultaneously on both instruments. Used three different .22 Hornets shooting two different factory loads, as well as a revolver in .22 Long Rifle.

Average for three shots with PPU 45 grain ammo with each of the three rifles on the Oehler/Garmin was 2494/2500; 2455/2475; and 2497/2520. With Remington 45 grain HP it was 2635/2651; 2554/2578; and 2613/2635. As you can see, the Garmin consistently showed a higher velocity by roughly 20 fps, but it was also presumably measuring muzzle velocity while the Oehler was measuring velocity 9 feet from the muzzle. Overall, that's very, very plausible.

The difference in the measurements from the .22 revolver, which ran around 1100 fps, were smaller, but consistent between the two machines. A smaller difference would be expected since the velocity was a bit less than half of that of the Hornet. The Oehler missed a couple of these shots while the Garmin duly recorded all of them.

Did one test with a 28 gauge shotgun. The Oehler registered all three shots while the Garmin only registered one, and it was somewhat at odds with the average of the Oehler. I think it can be said that the radar chronographs are only dependable with single projectiles, but are highly accurate and consistent with rifles and pistols.

Postscript: I just checked and JBM Ballistics shows that the drop in velocity from muzzle to 9 feet is about 18 fps for the PPU .22 Hornet bullet. That makes the Garmin and the Oehler virtually identical in registered velocities. I still can figure how the hell the Garmin works

I rate the Garmin Xero as one of the greatest things to come along in the shooting sports in a long time. Compact. Easy to set up. Long battery life. Easy to use. Easy to read. Never misses a shot. Accurate. No excuse not to use a chronograph with the Garmin.

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Originally posted by MJines:
I rate the Garmin Xero as one of the greatest things to come along in the shooting sports in a long time. Compact. Easy to set up. Long battery life. Easy to use. Easy to read. Never misses a shot. Accurate. No excuse not use a chronograph with the Garmin.

... but not cheap

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Originally posted by sambarman338:

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Originally posted by MJines:
I rate the Garmin Xero as one of the greatest things to come along in the shooting sports in a long time. Compact. Easy to set up. Long battery life. Easy to use. Easy to read. Never misses a shot. Accurate. No excuse not use a chronograph with the Garmin.

... but not cheap

No joke.

One thing is too fast for the Garmin to measure.

The speed of US$600 flying out of your wallet to pay for it.

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Originally posted by sambarman338:

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Originally posted by MJines:
I rate the Garmin Xero as one of the greatest things to come along in the shooting sports in a long time. Compact. Easy to set up. Long battery life. Easy to use. Easy to read. Never misses a shot. Accurate. No excuse not use a chronograph with the Garmin.

... but not cheap

Oh, but it is!

Back in 1971 as college students, my friend and I pooled our money and bought one of the original Oehler Model 10's, the first real solid-state consumer-type chronograph ever made available. The lofty price was $98 plus a 2% Texas sales tax -- and we bought it directly from Dr. Ken Oehler at his residence which was then in Pflugerville, Texas (an Austin suburb).

I recently received a Christmas gift from my wife of a Garmin Xero, for which she paid $600. (I wouldn't buy it for myself, believing it was too frivolous a purchase.)

My partner in the old Oehler now lives just a quarter-mile from me, and we were discussing the price of the new Garmin. Out of curiosity I looked up what $100 in 1971 was equal to in 2024 dollars: $814 smackers! That's right, the Garmin is way cheaper than the old Oehler Model 10. Besides that, $600 is a whole lot less of a financial sacrifice to me today than $100 as a broke college student.

Sometimes we just don't realize how good we've got it.

By the way, I've still got the Oehler Model 10 (as well as two copies of the Oehler 35). Found a package of the silver print screens the Model 10 used, along with the invoice for them from Doc Oehler. They sold for $8 per 100. Since it took two of them for each shot, that would get you fifty shots (assuming you didn't miss a screen or shoot the screen holder), which works out to 16 cents per shot, or $1.24 per shot in 2024 dollars. Yeah, let's go back and Make America Great Again!

Athlon Rangecraft Velocity Pro Radar Chronograph 707301

Athlon has a new radar chrono (65-5000 fps with .177 pellets up to 50 BMG) that looks almost exactly like the Garmin. Expected to be available in April of 2025 with a MSRP of $349.

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Originally posted by Fjold:
Athlon Rangecraft Velocity Pro Radar Chronograph 707301

Athlon has a new radar chrono (65-5000 fps with .177 pellets up to 50 BMG) that looks almost exactly like the Garmin. Expected to be available in April of 2025 with a MSRP of $349.

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THANK YOU, FRANK!

See what I meant about ripe bananas?!

I would have felt pretty dumb if I had bought a Garmin when I could have just waited a couple of months and bought something just as good or even better for half the price!

I'm waiting.

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:

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Originally posted by sambarman338:

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Originally posted by MJines:
I rate the Garmin Xero as one of the greatest things to come along in the shooting sports in a long time. Compact. Easy to set up. Long battery life. Easy to use. Easy to read. Never misses a shot. Accurate. No excuse not use a chronograph with the Garmin.

... but not cheap

Oh, but it is!

Back in 1971 as college students, my friend and I pooled our money and bought one of the original Oehler Model 10's, the first real solid-state consumer-type chronograph ever made available. The lofty price was $98 plus a 2% Texas sales tax -- and we bought it directly from Dr. Ken Oehler at his residence which was then in Pflugerville, Texas (an Austin suburb).

I recently received a Christmas gift from my wife of a Garmin Xero, for which she paid $600. (I wouldn't buy it for myself, believing it was too frivolous a purchase.)

My partner in the old Oehler now lives just a quarter-mile from me, and we were discussing the price of the new Garmin. Out of curiosity I looked up what $100 in 1971 was equal to in 2024 dollars: $814 smackers! That's right, the Garmin is way cheaper than the old Oehler Model 10. Besides that, $600 is a whole lot less of a financial sacrifice to me today than $100 as a broke college student.

Sometimes we just don't realize how good we've got it.

By the way, I've still got the Oehler Model 10 (as well as two copies of the Oehler 35). Found a package of the silver print screens the Model 10 used, along with the invoice for them from Doc Oehler. They sold for $8 per 100. Since it took two of them for each shot, that would get you fifty shots (assuming you didn't miss a screen or shoot the screen holder), which works out to 16 cents per shot, or $1.24 per shot itn 2024 dollars. Yeah, let's go back and Make America Great Again!

Yes, Stonecreek, there's that in it ... but I thought chronographs so dear back then that I didn't get one at all.

On the other hand, sometimes money numbers work on the psyche differently when they are smaller. When I got my 338 Win back in 1980, one in a Model 70 Winchester cost $350 at a time when I may have earnt $200 or $250 a week. The Sako was $400 and I thought [i]So what's another 50 bucks?[T/i] and bought that.

The price difference between those rifles would seem more formidable to me now.

I have an older PACT Model 1. It has served me well over the years. The thing I did not like about it was trying to get it set up so I didn't shoot the screens while still being able to hit the target...as in test for groups as well as speed.

Also, my time on the range has to be pretty flexible and getting the PACT set up, shoot, and taken down within the time restraints was difficult.

I spoke with many owners of the GARMIN and 100% of them were happy shooters!

I saved my gunning allowance for several months and the Wife gave me enough Christmas $ to pay for a GARMIN. I could not find any kind of good deal that would ship to AK, so I paid full price with Sportman's and waited several weeks for it to come. It is waiting for some good weather to get to the range!

Thanks for all for the reviews of this product.

Athlon Rangecraft.

Garmin competition. Half the price.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...hvdCBzaG93IDIwMjU%3D

very first part of video

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Athlon Rangecraft.

Garmin competition. Half the price.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...hvdCBzaG93IDIwMjU%3D


very first part of video

Thanks. My technical assessment is: That is very cool.

This may work for shotguns place the Garmin on handgun setting and shoot over the unit like you would w a handgun.

It will not read every shot, but it will read them. At least, it appears to.

The Oehler 35 is still the only available chrono for shotgun work.