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Quality of Bertram brass
Quality of Bertram brass
Loaded up 10 once fired 10.75x68 cases and found the quality not nearly that of RWS brass. The neck tension would not hold the bullet very well, the rims are thin and the necks would crush when attempting to crimp. No problem what so ever with RWS. New Bertram cases loaded without problem. Huntington's has Horneber brass. Has anyone tried it? Thanks, Bob
11 June 2009, 08:02
bartsche
Some .425 WR., Bertram brass I've used was on the soft side.

roger
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We tried Bertram brass in the past, in several calibers.
And without any doubt, these were the worst cases we have ever seen!
They had faults we have never seen in any brass before, or since.
I would not touch them.
Horneber is a much better brass.
11 June 2009, 16:12
J.D.Steelequote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
We tried Bertram brass in the past, in several calibers.
And without any doubt, these were the worst cases we have ever seen!
They had faults we have never seen in any brass before, or since.
I would not touch them.
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I agree completely!
Regards, Joe
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11 June 2009, 16:44
Bobby TomekMy dealing with Bertram brass is somewhat limited. Nonetheless, my experience mirrors what Saeed has noted.
The quality is POOR with tons of inconsistencies.
Bobby
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OK guys, I got a bunch of this brass and it works fine when new. Would annealing the necks help or would it just be softer? I was going to order a factory crimp die from Lee, but they told me 8 months

At least with the crimp die, the bullets would hold.
11 June 2009, 19:30
tiggertateAnnealing would worsen the problem. Bertram must use a different, softer alloy. Maybe to extend tooling life. Whatever the reason, it has been this way as long as I can remember. The only purpose the crimp performs on the big calibers is stopping bullet movement under recoil. I don't think a good crimp die will compensate for improper neck tension. You're just out more money with inadequate benefit.
If I had a bunch of new brass I'd sell it as new and take the loss. You're out a bunch more money if you sell it as once-fired or more. And it's practical value as shooter grade...well you've already experienced that.
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Tiggertate, I bought 6bxs at $24/bx when Midway had them on sale for 2hrs. Have four bxs of new brass left. Problem is, anyone that shoots a 10.75 is probably an AR forum member and knows the stuff stinks. I could use them for plinking with sized .429 pistol bullets. CH4D is making me .426 and a .423 bullet sizers. Guess I could change the .423 to a .4235. The Bertram junk would probably hold those.
3 boxs of Horneber from Huntingtons on the way.
13 June 2009, 06:19
jeffeossoI wonder.. just wonder, if you could get dave davidson to make you a neck sizer about .0015 or even more, smaller than what you have now ..
just a "last step" before you seat the bullets
that might let the bertram work.
we had a like problem with the 577 NE..
on the other hand, the new stuff is MUCH better