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| Don't even attempt anything other than full length resizing for these rifles. You'll save yourself some MAJOR headaches.
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| Agreed, the action on these guns is weak as far as chambering goes. If they aren't full length resized you will have issues with the rounds locking up. |
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| Thanks guys. I suspected as much.
When you say the action is weak. Does this mean they cannot be loaded with a maxed out reload? Not that I have any desire to do so. |
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| quote: Originally posted by cmbb: When you say the action is weak. Does this mean they cannot be loaded with a maxed out reload? Not that I have any desire to do so.
No, weak in that pumps don't have the mechanical advantage of a turnbolt's camming action. I always partial full length resize my 35 Whelen Rem 7600 brass enough that it chambers easily. Collet resizing just won't cut it in my rifle. |
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| So, the action in the pump is plenty strong for any reasonable practical reload or factory round. The pump does not have the mechanical advantage that a bolt action has due to the different designs? With a tight fitting round the pump may not be able to chamber it properly. Thanks guys! |
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| quote: So, the action in the pump is plenty strong for any reasonable practical reload or factory round. The pump does not have the mechanical advantage that a bolt action has due to the different designs? With a tight fitting round the pump may not be able to chamber it properly.
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| I always use 'small base' dies for pumps and autos, just to be positive I have no problems. |
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| Well....I'll say yes to your answer. If you are an experienced reloader and have tools to measure how your headspace grows it WILL NOT be a problem. I wouldn't load hunting ammo that way but for work at the range with once fired virgin ammo or light loads it will work fine. I've neck sized for a blr with no problems or even a hint of stickyness when chambering or extracting. The trick is to be sure you haven't let the headspace get to max chamber dimensions. If you really really want a super way to resize for that gun get a redding body die with the collet die....you will get absolute match grade ammo and can fit the body of the case to your chamber....even on ammo that's already been loaded. |
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| I second the small-base dies. I use them for my .223 AR-15. Never have any chambering and lock-up problems. I suppose they would be available for .308 and .30-06... |
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