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Well folks it looks like the drought is over.Fox skin prices look to be going up this year in auz. This old shooter is going up to the north of south auz and is going to finish his Roo quota for the year & then the .223 is going away& the hornet is going to start earnig a living for the winter! ![]() all times wasted wot's not spent shootin | ||
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a .223 and a hornet? Any WHAT is your handle? I think you need a new gun or a new name. ![]() Brent When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996 | |||
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DoK, best of luck to ya! Long live the Hornet! ![]() Brent, I don't follow...even the Keith used small bores once in awhile. He opined that the .264 Win. would be a fine varmint round. ![]() Dan Pres., TYHC www.FloatLikeAButterfly.StingLikeABee ![]() If yuro'e corseseyd and dsyelixc can you siltl raed oaky? | |||
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DD was just joking. I always associate Keith with big blunt heavy slow bullets. He was a bit too modern for me however. Brent When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996 | |||
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![]() ![]() Dan Pres., TYHC www.ThePaper.Jacket ![]() If yuro'e corseseyd and dsyelixc can you siltl raed oaky? | |||
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Indeed, a Luddite and proud of it....Bullet for REAL men ![]() When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996 | |||
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Brent, Just out of curiosity do you nitrate your patches? derf Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati | |||
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Derf, I been looking for a Nitrous Oxide patch myself. ![]() My Strength Is That I Can Laugh At Myself, My Weakness Is That I have No Choice. | |||
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PT, wouldn't it be kind of hard to make a shot while giggling uncontrolably!! ![]() Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati | |||
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Not with a scattergun boys, in fact I often laugh hysterically when blasting crats with my paper patched loads of #6 and a nitrous tank from the racing shop. ![]() ![]() On a lighter note: derf, the nitrating of patches for bullets is not done. Paper wrapped charges ARE nitrated though, the purpose being to burn up the cartridge. Two different processes for two different goals. The rifling cuts the patch on a bullet sufficiently to allow it to disentegrate and separate from the bullet after it exits the muzzle...or at least it should. Funny how technology runs in circles, the case for the M1 tank main gun uses a case that is consumed upon firing, so did the breechloading percussion Sharps. The projectile uses a discarding sabot, sorta like the...old paper patched buffalo cartridges. Wonder if an old PP percussion Sharps could take out a Rooskie tank? ![]() ![]() Dan Pres., TYHC www.SomethingOld.SomethingNew ![]() If yuro'e corseseyd and dsyelixc can you siltl raed oaky? | |||
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Derf, No nitrate. A burned patch is a failed patch. I lube them with special lubes however. I'm kinda a nut about it. Brent When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996 | |||
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A note about Keith, I have not read anything he wrote, but I is common knowledge he liked big bores. In my mettallic cartride reloading book, there is a cartride somwhere around a .378 weatherby, that Keith alledgedly thought was just right for elk. Large bullet travelling very fast. Works well for crats I wouls suspect. There is nothing that cannot be accomplished with brute force and ignorance | |||
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I knew of the nitrating of paper cartridges and was thinking that the nitrating of a pp just might give the bullet a bit of a boost. On the topic of Sharps power, a friend of mine had a 50/140 from C Sharps Arms many years ago when they were still affordable. He put 5 rounds into a piece of 1/4 plate at about 100 yards which was hanging on a single piece of chain. Each time he fired at it, the plate just jiggled a bit like it might from a near miss. After the fifth round he just had to go look to see how much he was missing by. DD can tell you what happens when a 50 hits mild steel, 5 perfect holes that looked like they had been drilled and deburred. No extrution and no bending of the plate, and this from pope loaded soft lead boolits! derf Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati | |||
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derf, never underestimate the unholy power of sectional density. ![]() On that subject, there was a show on the Military Channel(previously 'Wings') regarding future firepower. It ran the course from semi-conventional small arms and combination guns to lasers and rail guns. The short segment on rail guns was fascinating and it seems they are making some progress there. They were using a retangular bore with a cone-tailed dart of some alloy like kryptonite or something, the discarding sabot of aluminum. Velocities in the range of 6,000 fps with repeat shot capability within very short time frames, though I don't recall what that was. Back in the Reagan Era of Starwars they were looking for speeds of 20K fps but had no luck with repeatability due to bore damage. Imagine the day when individual hand held weapons render tanks obsolete, each gunner an army of one. Imagine such a tool loaded with steel bearings, on a tripod pintel mount on the high ground at the local dump, and crats in the open. ![]() Dan Pres., TYHC www.Maniacal.Laughter ![]() If yuro'e corseseyd and dsyelixc can you siltl raed oaky? | |||
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Brent sorry I havent been able to reply sooner Ive been out bush earning a living (I shoot Kangeroos for a living) and my rifle of choice is the .223 & as this winter it looks like Fox skins are going to make me a better return Ill be using the hornet as I do not enjoy the lucury of meat or skin damage! In my own time where I can aford to blast away with gayb abandon I choose to use a brace of Super blackhawks in the choice of the master .44mag & 45-70 marlin (throw back of my Buff shooting days & Camel& donkey fiascos) hence the 'Handle' all times wasted wot's not spent shootin | |||
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An antipodal fox hunting story would be great when the time is right Mr. DoK. I still have in my mind's eye a picture and story of Keith shooting his Big Fifty in the snow banks of his range and relating that he just went to the backstop in the spring and picked the spent slugs up for remoulding. "Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you" G. ned ludd | |||
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I do not think that our "DoK", will be able to do that where he lives. ![]() Hog Killer IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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Snow drifts aye??? What about sanddunes or the BLOODY SALT LAKE I GOT BOGGED IN THE OTHER NIGHT WITH 1.2 TONNE OF ROOS ON BOARD!!!!!!!! ![]() ![]() all times wasted wot's not spent shootin | |||
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Remember DoK, Live and Learn, not, Live and Relearn. ![]() Hog Killer IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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DoK, funny thing you say that about your Toyota, 'cause yesterday I was down at the wharf pickin' up some fresh shrimp off of the St. Anthony. What to my puzzled eyes should appear but the ass end of a Ford F150, with a half dozen ax holes in it. The Captain said his mate has a bit of a short fuse, and happened to go off one day in near proximity to the truck with an ax in his hand. This only because the Jiffy Mart was out of Red Man Tobacco. Sure glad I didn't mention what I'd seen his wife doin' while he was out catchin' the shrimp! (burp) Dan Pres., TYHC www.Tricky.Bitches ![]() If yuro'e corseseyd and dsyelixc can you siltl raed oaky? | |||
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Dont worry fellas My whole being bogged episod was a learning curve ![]() all times wasted wot's not spent shootin | |||
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DoK,,more pressure on the gas peadal sometimes helps,,,,if not,,,you were allready stuck,,So what the hell ![]() ![]() | |||
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I have shot a few fox,trapped alot more.I really liked the .17 Remington for fox,for hide hunting.Berger bullets. | |||
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Clay buster my down fall was that I had, had a shocker of a night at work (3 blown tyres blown spot light,wind blowing a gale &Roos were wearing Kevlar!!!!!!!!) anyway my base camp was on the other side or a Salt lake (Lake Gardner in the north of South Austalia) I had to drive another 3-4 kms to get roound the lake to get to camp .When in my wisdom I thought (First mistake ) Hey it's only about 500meters across here and there looks to be a bit of a solid section here(2nd mistake) I wont do what years of living in the Bush has taught me.(Get out & see if it is solid ) I'll be 'right I' ill just get a good run up & charge across it!!!!!! (fatal mistake ![]() ![]() ![]() all times wasted wot's not spent shootin | |||
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Dang,,,,,Sounds like it was one hell of a night for you!!! | |||
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Claybuster .I won't say it was a average night in the office.But I cried as I had to dump the nights profits.The worst part was everybody in the area that I was shooting in (about 700squ kms)Heard about it on the bush telegraph. so my wife knew even before I got home from the trip!!!!!!!! ![]() ![]() all times wasted wot's not spent shootin | |||
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BTW, if any of you guys haven't read Elmer Keith, (hughjass! listen up!) he wrote one of the most interesting books I ever read. It was, "Hell, I was there". It was a chronicle of his young days in the North West and will keep you riveted for hours. Since it was written over a half century ago, I'm sure it is out of print, but a good library should have it. I was fortunate enough to hear some of it first hand, and a more entertaining gent has never lived. Put your nose to the grindstone, your belly to the ground, and your shoulder to the wheel. Now try to work in that position! | |||
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D.O.K. It's sometimes a bitch living in a tight Knit group,,,,I live in one myself,,,if one knows,,,everyone knows,,,,,, ![]() | |||
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Clay know where your comming from ! Their wipping us out at about 2 shooters per week at the moment by cutting our quoters& putting our permits up to the limits ($750.00 per year)Its funny we get between 46-72cents a kilo but the finnished product in the supermarket chiller costs $11.75 per kilo ![]() all times wasted wot's not spent shootin | |||
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Jlongo Tell more my friend! Do I interpret that you knew Ol Elmer personally? He was a very entertaining genuine shot. APB | |||
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