We don't have to put up with crap like this.....

http://www.worldshooter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=705&p...ostorder=asc&start=0


I found this on the African Forum today.

That carmello,,,,,I don't know what to say.

Flamewars...uuuuugly!

I wonder what the crat lovers say about the diehards in this forum?

Must be the dumbes tread I have ever seen!


Made me

Johan

Stuff like that I try not to get involved with, or even bother about.

Whatever goes on between a man and his wife is their business as far as I'm concerned. If they're happy, then what does it matter who, what, or how they get their jollies.

I really don't care about "how" someone pays for their hunting trips, or about any of the rumor. They got to go hunting in Africa? Great, congrats to them, that's a goal of mine too, but I know my wife would never go for that manner of financing it.

I was attacked on the HS2000/XD forum by recounting a recent "almost" self-defense use of my pistol. I was looking for critique, instead got attacked for being too eager to clear my own house so that my family could go back to sleep after being unexpectantly awakened.

I thought defending one's family is what real men do....

cratshit for brains

Dang 120 ...

I got a call the other night from the NRA wanting my opinion on a poll they were doing about the new Florida "Lord of your castle" law.

They had some recorded blurb from the NRA VP about defending your home/property from an invader vs. trying to flee or escape and immediately surrender your home to the assailant.

Then the guy came back on the line asking me for my opinion on the laws as they currently stand in many states, and what I thought about them if it was my home being broken into.

I just told the guy on the phone very honestly, that if I'm home and someone breaks into MY house - the first thing I reach for won't be a law book.

When you consider the very high incidence of HIV/Aids infections in Africa, if true, EricD is really rolling the dice, and the odds are he's gonna crap out.

True story:

My uncle, retired USMC and now deceased was broken into at his house several years ago.

My uncle was physically a VERY powerful man, even well into his 60s, and he was known to be on several different psychotropic medications helping him deal with some PTSS issues he'd come home with from various assignments in the marines through the years.

(My uncle is the only man to ever hold my brother and I (and our wives) at gunpoint when we went to visit him at Christmas wishing him a Merry Christmas. And yes, he really did hold us at gunpoint with a .380 - which I have NO doubt whatsoever was loaded, sticking IN my chest the whole conversation while he told us how much he loved us and we were his only nephews that ever came by to visit him, and how his wife and kids didn't love him anymore, etc.) ... and I nodded and said "Yes sir. I love you too, Unc. ... a lot".

Anyway, my Uncle's house was "invaded" one night by a young fellow INTENT on getting some of my Uncle's drugs. The guy knocked on the door, and when my Uncle opened it, he basically demanding that my uncle was going to give him all his VA drugs. My uncle refused with as much tact and eloquence as only a lifetime in the marines can bestow upon someone, but the guy didn't listen, and politely forced his way past my uncle and into his house.

When the police arrived about 15 minutes later, my uncle had the guy kneeling down on his knees in the middle of the living room floor, hands behind his head, and a .357 sticking IN the guy's mouth, tears streaming down his face, while my uncle simultaneously dog-cussed him, and was talking to the 911 guy at the same time.

I'm friends with a lot of the local cops, and the story I heard from them was the 911 operator was having to beg and talk my uncle down from shooting the guy while the cops were in-route. The cops found the guy's "getaway driver" still sitting in the driveway waiting for his friend to come out.

That's really sad,,and they should take a very hard look at themselves before calling others a bunch of snobs.Theres a verse in the bible about a mustard seed in the eye,,but it has been piled under in my brain by too many other things to begin to search for it. The people here are the best I've ever associated with on the net,,Your friend,,,Clay

Hey Ben,,thats kinda wacky,,But really cool!!!My uncle turned into a spineless worm that tryed to screw my dad anyway he could,,not even christmas cards for him,,Clay

I have a few uncles, 2 of 'em are dead now.

My Uncle Brad - the one in the story above was easily the most "live wire" of any of them.

He loved his family, but he loved his vodka too, and that, plus everything he'd been through got him in trouble.

After my brother and I told our Dad what happened during the Christmas visit that year, Dad waited until he'd sobered up, then went over to his house and relieved my uncle of all his firearms. I think Dad gave him a pretty bad guilt trip over it and my uncle saw the light on that one. For what it's worth, on that trip over, my little brother and both our wives were just sitting on the couch not moving, and I was sitting in the recliner next to my Uncle's and just sort of absolutely concerned, while trying to keep the mood as light as possible while being very understanding and sympathetic.

My uncle ended up calling me at home and gave me that .380 and apologized. I still have the round that was in the chamber that night when he held it to my sternum.

Then he called me a couple weeks later and asked me if he could borrow my .44 to shoot some deer out of his backyard, and oh, could I bring it over to him, and pick him up a half-gallon of Vodka on my way over.

And yeah, against better judgement I went and re-armed him. A few weeks later I got my .44 back, and somewhere along the way he picked up that .357, a .454, and a .270 from somewhere.

He was a little rough around the edges, and sometimes when he'd been drinking or get depressed, he had a lot of bad memories and hard decisions that would come back to haunt him, but he was a good man at heart - you just had to understand him. He loved his family, and he loved his Marine Corps.

Alcohol can be a wicked thing,, Clay

I think it doesn't happen that much here because all them wussies are afraid of Dragon Lady.

Dan

Pres., TYHC

http://www.Just.Guessin

I got drilled on the "Handgun Hunting" forum for taking a 35 yard head shot on a deer. It seems what I considered to be either a "clean kill, or a "clean miss" didn't please some folks.
"DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY DEER I'VE SEEN WITH THEIR JAW SHOT OFF?)
Also, my 6" Ruger GP100 with hard cast 180gr. bullets was woefully underpowered.

Ac,,,,,,opinionons are like assholes,,everyone has one Dan,,I think it's the whole gang united that makes us who we are,,We as a whole have shaken out the trash,,and put it where it belongs,,You,dl,BBturtle,adm.kirk,wolfer,120,htrn,ned,clay,poletax,derf,,apologies to those I did'nt list,,Anyhow,,we take no shit. Kinda miss mortie though,,big momma must have squished him

Part of it is what you don't say. I would NEVER talk about shooting a cat with a 30-30 at the hunt club. N.S.

That first thread is just bizarre.

This forum reminds me that the world will forgive anything but being boring. Ad hominem attacks are boring.

Glad to hear we're on the snob forum.

Went out with a girl once. About a mile down the road she said, "this ain't going to work". "Really", I said, "why do you say that?" "Because your radio is set to talk radio and classical music." She had me there.

LD

I'm glad we stick to the serious stuff like whackin crats!
Nobody likes a bunch of BS!

GI carr Dragon Lady? Herro boys! Rong time since visit here. Li have manicure, girr very srow. She say work for union. No bic. Li think she work beauty saron?

Li have new recipie! Cat Fondue with Goat Cheese! Big surprise dish for peopre eating tasty animars Li think. Terr them taste just rike chicken. Terr them Li tasty too. They rook at Li funny. Then they say "No, we treat animars ethicarry." Dien qe dao numba 10! Go back kitchen fix cabbage soup. Rook rike tinkre, hope taste rike tinkre. Beau coup tinkre in soup. Li give speciar treat. HA HA!

Recipe for Cat Fondue with Goat Cheese.

Fix rike other fondue. Use 1 cat and 2 goat cheese. 2 crove garric, 1 spoon ginger. 1 cup crush pineappre. Chopsticks numba 10 GI, use spoon. Feed party of 10.

Li go back to kitchen. Where is Birman-san?

Dlagonrady, how you tinkre in soup as it cooks, without scarding insides of both thighs?

Unress you ale mole manry than you impry?

Mr. 120mm sir, that ord ninja trick. You want Li teach?

WATCH OUT! WARNING! WARNING! Those old ninja tricks are something? But the Cat Fondue with Goat Cheese might be pretty good, or at least pretty cheesy.

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Originally posted by dustoffer:
When you consider the very high incidence of HIV/Aids infections in Africa, if true, EricD is really rolling the dice, and the odds are he's gonna crap out.

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quote:

Originally posted by 120mm:
I thought defending one's family is what real men do....

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Originally posted by Ben589:
Stuff like that I try not to get involved with, or even bother about.

Whatever goes on between a man and his wife is their business as far as I'm concerned. If they're happy, then what does it matter who, what, or how they get their jollies.

I really don't care about "how" someone pays for their hunting trips, or about any of the rumor. They got to go hunting in Africa? Great, congrats to them, that's a goal of mine too, but I know my wife would never go for that manner of financing it.

Are you guys mentally challenged in some strange way???

Do you actually believe what a known Troll, such as Carmelo, looking for revenge, posts on his looser website?

Is it likely that I prosituted my wife all the way thru 20some african countries to finance our trip? Had you read any of my previous posts when AIDS and local black africans have been discussed on the African forum, you would know that my opinion of local black africans is rather low. To put it mildly.

Are Carmens claims that Jorges daughter prostituted herself so that my wife and I could spend a year driving around in the deserts/jungle/bush in Africa likely?

Is it likely that 500grains went to Zim to molest little children? I guess all those photos of him and his elephants were fake...

Oh, and apparently, I sold my own ass to locals too while driving thru Africa...

Anybody dumb enough to believe such accusations should be locked up, and kept from procreating.

I have to assume that either you dumbies are total retards, or you are in fact Carmelo aliases, trying to stir up shit.

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Are you guys mentally challenged in some strange way???

Every day of my life bubba. Especially the "strange" part. As to your last insinuations/allegations, or perhaps idle ruminations of a dim mind, well, blow me.

I read one of Carmelo's posts in the Africa Forum awhile back, haven't done so since. Haven't been to his web site, nothing to learn from such a place IMO. Nobody else here pays him heed either.

If you sold your ass to the locals whilst wandering around in the veldt, hope you delivered same commensurate with compensation. Apparently.

A simple recognition of the words, "if true" would have served you well before launching your rant by the way, none of the allegations mentioned are worthy of belief, thought or response, the point of the post is that.

Oh well, it's a dreary raw day here in Y'town, the tide's on the way out and the fireplace is ready for a match. If perchance YOU are looking for a challenge, might I suggest "Modern Exterior Ballistics" by Robert McCoy. Damn fine brain tonic that...


Dan

Pres., TYHC

http://www.MidMorning.Warmup

quote:

Originally posted by dustoffer:
When you consider the very high incidence of HIV/Aids infections in Africa, if true, EricD is really rolling the dice, and the odds are he's gonna crap out.

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Gimme a break. ErikD did not do that nor would any sane person even think it up. This is all the work product of the sick mind of Carmelo Lisciotto. He uses his private forum to slander those who he dislikes.

Repeating such vile slander as "if they are true" only perpetuates the slander on another forum.

When posting such garbage try this test:

Would you say such things to a persons face, even if you added the "if true"?

If you did, would you expect to get a broken nose about a nano-second later?

Well, I'll re-iterate my post as quoted above was simply saying that I really don't care about what goes on in someone else's - anyone else's house.

I was just proud ErikD had gotten a hunting trip to Africa.

I do apologize if my statement about my wife would never opt for that manner of financing it - if it was misconstrued as alledging that's seriously how *ErikD* had gotten there, or that I was even talking about "ErikD" - that certainly wasn't my intent.

My intent was simply that I'd love to go shoot stuff in Africa via any means possible, but I know my wife would never opt for the one listed in the story.

I don't know any of the backstory with Carmello, who he is, or really care about any of it, or about whatever anyone else does in their home, and to be quite honest, I wasn't even talking about "ErikD" - or *anyone* for that matter in particular, just a general type thing.

I was addressing the story, and the spirit of the story, in my reply, in what I had hoped was a humorous and upbeat type response, and that's all - certainly not directed at specific person.

To ErikD:
I can understand though that you're very close to it all, and probably a bit on edge by the accusations, and therefore are unable to address it with the same detachment and humor that I saw in it. I wasn't replying about you, or trying to suggest it was true about you.

I do not, however, consider myself a "dumbie" nor a "total retard", and I certainly wasn't trying to "stir up shit" regarding you or anyone else.

quote:

I do apologize if my statement about my wife would never opt for that manner of financing it - if it was misconstrued as alledging that's seriously how *ErikD* had gotten there, or that I was even talking about "ErikD" - that certainly wasn't my intent.

Perhaps my temper flared up a bit, but your post did, to me, seem to insinuate that you believed the accusations.

Sorry for the rant, but I presume most of you would agree that you'd get a bit pissed off if you and your family was accused of such BS.

I'm cool with it - and I know how easy it is to get on edge with things that you care about.

I was primarily addressing the whole issue about spreading gossip in general.

It's just that - gossip, and frankly I don't like gossip, or consider it any of my business, and that's all.

It's just not something that needs to be spread. I was hoping that's the way it would come across, but it can be awfully hard to know how someone else will interpret what you write.

No one here would believe such gibberish posted by anyone at WS.I can speak for Ben,he is a fine fellow and a great sportsman.
Erik,I believe I can speak for all here,that we would watch your back.
Most here can only dream of going to Africa,so we settle for deer,maybe pop a few squirrels.
And the occasional feral cat.
Get on this thread more often.Great humor.And most posts are tongue in cheek.

Right on PT. I have read most all the posts here and there and fully beleive that Erik did NOT pimp his wife or anyone elses child or what have you for his african trip.

I'm mostly on the "crat whackin" small game forum but I do get out once in awhile!


Erik when the time comes the "crat whackin" small game forum guys are some of the best company to have on your side IMHO!

Hell look at it like this we are crazy enough to dream up some of the ways to eliminate crats that we do so you know we can come up with a cunning plan for crapmello!

I'm glad to hear that 7Rumloader!

As Caramello-boy is doing his best to eliminate himself I think it is using more force than needed to let you loose on him.

ErikD, there are too many reasons than are practical to list for sensible people to know better. Relax...though I understand how hard that can be with the insults you have received.

Personally, I feel a bit (only a small bit) of pity for the guy. He obviously has no knowledge of the joys of family and real friends. He also obviously has little hope of changing that as well...

Scrape the smelly stuff off of your boots and move on man! 99.9% of us know better and the rest are just wasting good oxygen.

ErikD -

You quoted me out of context. I was only referring to my own rough treatment on a different forum and the quote you used was in reference to those forum members lambasting me for being eager to defend my own family.

Having said that, please post here more often. The crat-whacking is only a pretext for gathering together, laughing at people without senses of humor (and cats, which are the same thing) and having a civil board. The crat-whacking deters most trolls from this board.

Yeah! You wanna do this?

Or this?

You shoot any crats in Africa?

Dan

Pres., TYHC

http://www.TygerTyger.BurningBright

quote:

Originally posted by DigitalDan:

You shoot any crats in Africa?

Dan

Pres., TYHC

http://www.TygerTyger.BurningBright

Actually, we never saw many domestic crats in Africa. Just dogs. And as we were in over 20 countries, we got a pretty good overveiw. I haven't really thought about it until now, but maybe they have a hard time surviving? Too many other preditors or something that eat them up before they multiply? And then the locals might not find them of much use, unlike a dog. So wasting food on one in Africa for a local is not very likely.

I have taken a shot at a "problem cheetah", but that's a bit differant than the crats you guys shoot at.

There are *other* types of small game ya know ...

http://www.alaweb.com/~crowell/coyote01.jpg
http://www.alaweb.com/~crowell/coyote02.jpg

My first theory about fewer cats in African areas is that's the general area the cat originated and evolved in, and that's it's ecological niche where it belongs and can be a natural part of the ecosystem.

Eric, tongue in cheek a little on that... crats be crats, only the size is different.

Crat:

"Shoot any crats" is an all encompassing inquiry.

Dan

Pres., TYHC

http://www.SheDontLook.Happy