Folks, at last, whew!, Sundog and I got it done. Mrs. Felix re-verified all envelopes for checks and addresses, and the checks will be cashed this week sometime. There are four addresses in doubt, and I will be making phone calls to the suspected parties to assure the shipping addresses.

The lube was made according to the majority of the buyer specifications. Not sticky, won't melt, will shoot to POA in hunting weather on first shot, and will shoot good without cleaning for a day's worth. The lube is a little dry abd hard for my tastes, but Sundog said it is not any more difficult to lube with in the Lyman or RCBS lubers than the other lubes that flow through the machine without heating. He said to ship the lube, and later provide instructions for personal modifications upon request on the board. ... felix

Bless you and Felix, Sundog!

Yer timing is pretty good, too. There have been times between here and there that my check would have been a little iffy and I am down to my last three sticks of Tamerack.

Got a new challenge for you. Can you duplcate the old Bullet Master? It was the best I have ever seen or expect to see for HV rifle bullets.

You just put such a smile on my face you can probably see the glow from my somewhat white teeth halfway across the country! Hey, I'm sixty years old and at least they're mine. I'll be anxiuosly checking my mailbox everyday.

I'm extremely happy that FWFL is ready to ship. It sounds like the ideal lube, based on your description.

How about some information regarding the melt? I'd be interested in the logistics of doing a big melt.

Thanks and congratulations for getting it done. Turbo

Felix and Sundog, A big thank you to you both for taking this on. I'll be anxious to see how the "Real Deal FWFL" compares to my imitation FWFL. Regards, Woody

I'll be checking the mail now like a kid waiting for his Captain Midnight decoder ring. I have been casting bullets all summer and the are waiting for a coating of this world famous stuff.
Thanks guys for all your work.

Happy Days ,I have been wanting to try this lube for awhile ,Thanks to everybody involved. Sean

YAAAAHOOOOOO!!!!! Can't wait. And thanks, again, both of you!>>>>>>>>>>>>Bug.

HEAR HEAR!!!!

or is it HERE HERE?

Anyway, thanks for hard work. I'm really looking forward to this great lube.

Leadsmith

That's great news!! Thanks again Felix and Sundog.
Maineboy

Yahoo I been await'n.

Ok so I will clean one of my lubrisizers and use it for this lube.

For you with experience should it be the rifle or pistol lubrisizer?

Remember I still have some 50:50 I have to use up.

LouisB

[ 11-01-2003, 05:32: Message edited by: TCLouis ]

felix/Sundog,

I'll bet you're really glad That's Done!

I think we ALL want to thank you two, er, three, for all the work that goes into such a project, including keeping track of the Paperwork.

Thanks again for your efforts.

Folks, we don't have enough experience with the lube yet, but initial trials says it is good stuff. With all of the work it took to make, about 8 hours total, we are disappointed that we filled only 230 containers, which results in two containers (a 20 dollar order) for just over a pound's worth of lube, say a pound and one-third. Sundog filled a coffee can with that splashed on the card tables (somewhat dirty, and has to be strained) during the filling process. I am going to hold 4 good containers back for further mods, in case someone might wish for a different characteristic of some sort. I have enough personal lube that I don't want to keep any of this batch to shoot with, save that required to re-verify the current composition's ability to shoot as intended. Later on I will give instructions to duplicate this endeavor, but never again would I suggest doing this amount in one pass. Pure insanity. ... felix

Felix,

I'm not in on this lube distribution but am sure you're aware of the USPS Priority Mail envelopes that invite one to not bother weighing, just "as much as you can stuff in" for around $3.85. I've mailed off many pounds of boolits that way.

Goatlips

Goatlips, that's what's planned, using those envelopes. The total quantity of lube less than was expected, that's all. We have 85 orders, and some of those want a double order, and there's one three order, meaning 6 little tubs, each having about 3/4ths of a pound of lube. We will have some left over to send later, but just barely. I was hoping for 2 pounds per order, but that just wasn't in the cards. We could have made that issue the number one concern, but the lube quality was/is the paramount issue. Besides, it is damn difficult how to make quality (enough) in such a large lot. Question always came up, on how much to add what, and at what time during the day. ... felix

Felix & Sundog:
Many thanks to you both, it does my heart good to know there are so many kind and giving person's in this world esp in this casting & shooting comunity. What goes around comes around and I only wish I lived close enough to have been part of your undertaking. Felix needless to say what you have done to lube making & sharing the secrets and not asking of anything in return is a credit to you and Sundog. Thanks again Don.

I don't even use it, but feel like I need some.

Felix Sundog, Thanks for your efforts! Can't wait to try it. Should be enough to keep me goin for awhile.

woods

I loaded 100 rounds of 45 AR with the 454190 over W231. This is one of the same loads Felix and I tried when we made this batch of lube the other day. I shot it in an old 1917 Colt with a much less than perfect barrel, and it shot cleanly. No leading and a slight remaining sheen. It's stiff, but it flows through a Ly 450 okay. We also tested in the 35 Whelen. Methinks y'all are gonna like this batch! Like Felix said, if'n y'all are planning to make a batch this big, insanity rules. sundog

I can see my groups shrinking already!! Seriously I thank you both for your efforts on behalf of your lube challenged bretheren . Nick

thanks to all involved. i too will be hanging around the mailbox...just waiting and waiting....

(felix....did the mix result in the extra beeswax we were hoping for ???)

now does anyone have the old instructions on making moulds to pour this into for use in center screw lyman/rcbs lube/sizers ???

Mike, no extra beeswax because we used that as a base, if you will. Everything else was mixed into it (in theory, but actually in reverse sequence), and there is some leftovers of money orders, and cash to exactly equal $1657.50 ... Forgot what the actual cost was, somewhere around 1200, minus a little, I think. Postage will be close to 400 bucks, though. Did somebody say a break even project? If you count wear and tear on a couple of minds and bodies, a couple of us came out in the hole. Well, Sundog and I would rather say "whole" than "hole". We were glad to do it for everyone, but I do rather think this hobby is insane. ... felix

Mike, do it the way you want, BUT, I like to melt small qtys in the microwave oven in a Pyrex pouring cup. Melt only long enough to leave a button of unmelted lube - it will melt on its own - cup is VERY hot. Pour into luber and let cool. No more air bubbles from adding those holy sticks, too.

OKSMLE, are you hangin around? I'm lubing some 314299 with the new stuff getting ready for the December SMLE match. Remember, with this batch of lube, I am invinsible! {BSEG} sundog

felix,Sundog
That's outstanding news. The hard work you folks put into this project is surely appreciated.
I hope all involved had a couple of cold ones afterwards.
Many thanks
Roach

Thanks for all the labor involved. It surely isd a labor of love. Can't wait to try it out. Watching the mailbox every day.
Paul B.

Checks were put into the bank yesterday. All containers were wrapped with zipped locked baggies, and are ready to be stufffed into the mailers today. The mailers are the 4 dollar unlimited weight kind, and have the addys already taped on. No more than several a day will be mailed in order to minimize the bulk going into the car and into the post office at one time.

When you get the order, please use Sundog's trick::: Empty each "quart" container, lube is hard enough to drop out without digging, into a pyrex glass and nuke the half gallon's worth of lube in the microwave and stirr well after melted. If you desire the lube to be softer, add a level table spoon of lanolin giving a slightly stickier mix, or a level table spoon of vaseline to keep it just as dry. Add a mixture of both to go even softer. For a faster speed lube, add a level tea spoon of castor oil. That would require longer cooking, and should not be done unless proven to be required for a specific application. You can do this several times until a complete softness requirement is obtained.

Please send back a mailer with your full name and addy and phone number, plus all of your pen names from all of the boards, with any comments. This will track the shipments for me, and will give me an indication of who got what and what they did with the product. There will be some left over for a reshipment if necessary.

felix

Please include your current email addy too, to what is sent back. ... felix

LUBE MAILED at 3 PM this afternoon....

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RD-73112
JA-97223
JL-71234
ML-07041
BD-89460
RC-66044
JD-02896
ML-77461
RB-83263
CS-19952
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Thanks felix,sundog et.all,
Your hard work is appreciated! One quick question. Does the lube need to be in a completely clean lubrisizer or can residue from say 50/50 alox/beeswax be acceptable? Thanks-JDL

JDL, just pour it over the top. Should be compatible enough not to cause you a problem that would make a difference. Somewhat compatible. ... felix

LUBE MAILED

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FR 10/31 TH 10/30
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SO-15610 RD-73112
KT-97058 JA-97223
WC-77388 JL-71234
MH-74063 ML-07041
MS-62326 BD-89460
CB-46356 RC-66044
PM-43078 JD-02896
MR-29414 ML-77461
ML-57252 RB-83263
CU-54914 CS-19952
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JDL, Felix's advice is good. Just last night I emptied out a RCBS lubrisizer that I had gotten in a trade (free because it was one of those, "Why don't you just take that too," kinda things) that had RCBS pistol lube and a stick of Alox behind it. Just squeezed it all out, picked out what I could, poured in FWFL. The stuff I put in was an old batch of mine cleaned out of a 450 and some of the new stuff. Squeezed some more through and cleaned it out a little more, and then went to lubing boolits. The new BD45s. I poured a HUGE pile in only a few minutes after work just fooling around. Nice moulds, and nice boolits. Now, to see how they shoot....

btw, the 450 I just mentioned. I squeezed out the FWFL (a full column) that was in it, and poured the new batch right on top, let it cool, squeezed out a little more to get all the old stuff out. Worked fine. My old batch of FWFL that squeezed out was recycled into the Pyrex measure cup and mixed with more of the new batch. Everthang seems to be copistatic. sundog

oh, yea, forgot to mention again. When nuking lube in a glass container, stop the nuke before all is melted, leaving a small 'button' of solid lube. The glass (and the handle) is really HOT, so be careful - and so is the lube! Stir it around a little and the button will slowly melt, then pour. This way you're not recooking the lube, not getting it TOO hot.

[ 10-31-2003, 16:47: Message edited by: sundog ]

Felix, when you said to send back a "mailer", did you mean a letter or a new $4.00 one? Would you just as soon have a check for the same amount?

Fourarmed, just a post card will suffice with the pertinent info asked for. ... felix

LUBE MAILED

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FR 10/31 FR 10/31 TH 10/30
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RF-82718 SO-15610 RD-73112
WE-95019 KT-97058 JA-97223
DD-23462 WC-77388 JL-71234
ES-17821 MH-74063 ML-07041
JB-47272 MS-62326 BD-89460
GL-83201 CB-46356 RC-66044
MB-T7VIN7 PM-43078 JD-02896
GM-T6L2N7 MR-29414 ML-77461
XX-99999 ML-57252 RB-83263
XX-99999 CU-54914 CS-19952
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OK so two guys slaved over a "hot stove" for a day to get us all a batch of lube.

Profit when all is paid for is nil.

I have an envelope addressed and it will contain just a little cash for Felix and Sundog.

What they care to do with it is up to them!

LouisB

Thanks, Lewis. ... felix for himself and Sundog ... error, I mean Louis!

[ 11-01-2003, 06:26: Message edited by: felix ]

Thanks Felix

Regards Martin

Add me to this long list of the thankful...
Thank's Felix n Sundog...