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| Way to go Shuz! You got pics? |
| Posts: 39 | Location: Caribou, Maine | Registered: 30 December 2002 | 
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| Ray, That's one of them unanswerable questions. Good shooting as bullet placement is everything. Sure you didn't sever something and just didn't see it. If the checst cavity was full of blood then I would suspect you bled him out fast. Congrats on a successful hunt. Mark |
| Posts: 210 | Location: Willamette Valley | Registered: 11 March 2001 | 
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| Congratulations Ray, Please give us the specifics on the boolit. I wonder if the RCBS 35-200 would be enough on elk with broadside shots? Hey, this just might be the excuse for getting Dan to cut a heavier mould for my .358 Win. ![[Wink]](images/icons/wink.gif) -JDL |
| Posts: 61 | Location: Louisiana | Registered: 21 August 2003 | 
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| Yea! What Maineboy said. That is one awesome boolit! sundog |
| Posts: 287 | Location: Koweta Mission, OK | Registered: 28 August 2001 | 
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| Congratulations! That'll be some nice eating this winter.
Can't remember where I read this, but some work was done that indicated that animals that dropped on the spot were shot just as the heart was contracting. They looked at the brains of animals shot and did a comparison between ones that dropped on the spot and those that kept on trucking for a bit.
The pressure in the circulation system spikes when the heart contracts. The bullet impact also produces an instantaneous blood pressure spike. The two spikes together ruptured many blood vessels in the brain and the animal goes down immediately.
Sounded good, anyway.
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| Posts: 6 | Location: Ft Worth TX | Registered: 25 August 2003 | 
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| We didn't have a digital camera along, but we did manage to take some pictures with a disposable camera after we got the bull skinned,quartered and packed back to our wall tent. The head is still intact behind my shop and I'll try and get some digital pictures in the next day or so. We were fortunate to get the quarters hung within 4 hours of the kill because the weather was really warm. The temp was in the low 60's all day Sunday the 26th and didn't drop below 50 Sunday night. same scenario for Monday the 27th. It didn't drop to 40 until early Tuesday morning. I was really concerned about the meat spoiling, but evidently allowing air to circulate around the quarters as they hung in meat bags between a couple of Ponderosa pines was sufficient for the meat to not spoil. We've eaten tenderloins and ground elk and jerky; and, so far, so good! Also, as I butchered, the meat smelt OK. Temperature sure was a concern tho, whilst out in the bush! Now about the boolit. It was Lyman's now discontinued 358009 280g RN cast from 3:1 (ww:lino) alloy and quench cast to a Bhn of nearly 35(Saeco 12). Rifle is a Rem 700 in .35 Whelen with a Douglass 1:12 twist bbl. Load was 48g of AA4064 chrono'd at an average of 2150fps.--Shuz |
| Posts: 23 | Location: Nine Mile Falls, Wa. | Registered: 29 August 2003 | 
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| quote: Originally posted by Leadsmith: Congratulations! That'll be some nice eating this winter.
Can't remember where I read this, but some work was done that indicated that animals that dropped on the spot were shot just as the heart was contracting. They looked at the brains of animals shot and did a comparison between ones that dropped on the spot and those that kept on trucking for a bit.
Leadsmith--Like you say, the theory you mentioned sounds good to me! Mark--The chest cavity was not filled with blood. As far as I could tell, no major arteries appeared hit, but then when you are gutting and skinning on the ground and trying to work fast before the damn blowflies, deer flies and other vermin try to eat both you and the elk up, a guy just might have miissed sumthin'--Shuz
The pressure in the circulation system spikes when the heart contracts. The bullet impact also produces an instantaneous blood pressure spike. The two spikes together ruptured many blood vessels in the brain and the animal goes down immediately.
Sounded good, anyway.
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| Posts: 23 | Location: Nine Mile Falls, Wa. | Registered: 29 August 2003 | 
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| Shuz - Congratulations again on the elk. I'm still having fits with my .358 Win. I've got the 1-12 Douglas on it, and it so far has left something to be desired as far as accuracy at your velocity. I'm going to keep working at it, trying a lube change next. I'd been using FWFL, and seem to recall I was a bit short on an ingredient the last time around, so hopefully I can get it shooting better. Castor oil, and a touch more lanolin is being added this evening in a small test batch. It sounds like your alloy is harder than the hubs of hell, so I may try something a bit harder, although I have tried some asenic enriched quenched bullets that run in the 26-27 Bn range. What kind of hundred yard groups are you getting with the Whelen? |
| Posts: 922 | Location: Somers, Montana | Registered: 23 May 2002 | 
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