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Ii'e heard rumors and inuindo of hunting feral/scrub bulls in south texas for the last 2 decades. To some who haven't seen cattle gone feral, this may not seem sporting.. to others, it's a hunting biz in OZ... so, has anyone done this? hunted feral cattle in south texas (or anywhere else in texas)... would be sort of interested in a longhorned cape!! feel free to PM me on this, if you like jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | ||
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Jeff: I don´t know about cattle in Texas, but some years ago in the Southernmost part of our Andes, there were many heads of feral cattle. They offered a true dangerous hunt in the mountains, several horses and I believe some hunters were dispatched by these lost herds. The bulls (and cows) charged en masse mounted hunters. I don´t know the current status of such beasts. Perhaps Gustavo or other Argentine hunter could clarify the subject. Regards | |||
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To add to this legend, I understand that you can hunt feral cattle in Mexico -- I remember reading about some feral cattle hunts somewhere on AR a year or two ago. Might want to do a search, Jeffe. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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On the northeast Hamakua coast of the "Big Island" of Hawaii the state recently had extermination hunts of feral cattle on state forest reserve lands. I'm not sure of all the details as a friend that lives there mentioned it briefly in a letter. Can't afford a hunt to Africa for cape buffs so maybe this is the bluecollar's answer to bovine excitement. Here's info I found: http://www.kpua.net/news.php?id=6796 http://www.state.hi.us/dlnr/dofaw/hunting/LN05-18.htm http://www.state.hi.us/dlnr/dofaw/hunting/LN%2005-22%20feral%20cattle%20BI.htm http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Nov/02/ln/FP511020355.html ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM | |||
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I have heard of the feral cattle hunts in south Texas, and one of our Javelina clients mentioned something to me about such a hunt in Big Bend National Park. In a copy, and I will have to see which issue it was, Phil Shoemaker, in Alaska did a story about trying to hunt feral cattle on the outer islands in the Aleutian Chain. The pictures he had showed 1 bull charging the helicpoter as it was hovering. I will find that article and pass on the information so any one that is interested can look into it. I do know that cattle that have beenin the brush for several years without human contact can be come extremely wild and the bulls can become really aggressive. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Feral Cattle...they have in Calif on the UC Berkeley Campus...oh oh wait those were Berkeley Co-Eds...  Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Do you know what he difference is between a feral cow and a feral co-ed? - - - - - - - - - About 50 lbs and a plaid shirt... Oh, you said BERKELEY. Make that 50 lbs and a pair of Birkenstocks...  | |||
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wild cattle on some of the larger ranches of So. Tx. have had little exposure to humans. we once loaded a large herd that had been gathered by helocopters and vaqueros(cowboys)and dogs into several cattle trucks. I have no doubt that loading these cattle was the first time most of them had been near humans. they were not to be taken lightly. Kurt. | |||
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The original feral cattle: The Auroch The animals depicted on cave walls in France, stood 7 feet tall at the shoulder. Two German zoologist brothers suceeded in bringing a close copy back through years of selective breeding just prior to WWII. Most of their work was destroyed in the war. Too bad - they could have been american/european version of cape buffalo. I stand corrected - the breeding experiments continue to this day in Germany. | |||
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i know i read an article about hunting feral cattle on south texas(along the Rio Grande) in a major hunting mag about 20 years ago. I kept for along time because I wanted to try it. Wish I still had that article. It talked about them busting out of long grass by the river & charging like a Cape Buff. Lance Lance Larson Studio lancelarsonstudio.com | |||
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I read a similar article, maybe the same one. And if memory serves, it was written by Murray Burnham, one of the pioneers in varmint calls... | |||
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I know that on the ranch my brother works on they carry guns when they gather cattle incase they have a bull that gets out of hand. One bull in particular had to be hunted because of the damage he was doing. I didn't hunt him per se, but I was down there bobcat hunting and definately switched ammo when I learned we were in the same pasture the bull was in. I also know a cowboy near Marfa TX, that hunts and gathers wild cattle along the border. This is fairly dangerous work and sometimes requires killing bulls. The Hunt goes on forever, the season never ends. I didn't learn this by reading about it or seeing it on TV. I learned it by doing it. | |||
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wouldn't mind riding with said cowboy.. and then finishing the issue on foot. jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I have hunted Feral Cattle in the north of Australia, and I personally found them more challenging that the Water buff in OZ.  | |||
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NICE PIC!!! what are the trees? They look a litle like a pineforrest floor here.. once matured, there's little undergrowth jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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These are paperbark tree in a dried out swamp, during the Northern wet this would be well under water, this photo was taken during the end of the dry season. | |||
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that explains the clear ground... Wish I had been there.!!! jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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A few years ago I came on a herd of cattle in the Sam Houston National Forest (just north of Houston). I didn't know anything about feral cattle (the thought had never crossed my mind) but these must have been feral. They didn't act like domestic cattle. They acted more like buff. They never charged but they bunched together, faced me, and were very standoff-ish. I was in quite a way and there were no fences (or even pastures) anywhere around. If I had known I probably would have taken one but fearing the law enforcement that I NEVER saw I passed. They never would have believed it anyway. | |||
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Friends had a couple of wild cows on their ranch in South Texas that had to be killed. Seemes they were alpha females that tended to attract other cows into their herd. Once they were gone, the others migrated back into the regular herd and tamed back down (at least to the degree that any S. Texas herd is tame). I don't see them running up to trucks for cubes like I do in the midwest. I'm sure there are places like that but not where I hunt! "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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This thread causes me to tell my father's best mad bull story. Years ago my father hunted coyotes with hounds and hunted near a dairy farm where a bull had dived out of a trailer on its head and was never right afterwards. One night my father had went into the pasture after his dogs had bayed a coyote and on his way back to the truck ran headlong into this bull. Dad was close to a small bluff and running to it found a cleft in the rock face, and having no weapon other than a pocketknife he crawled into the cleft as best he could as the bull approached him. The bull could not get to him, but layed down on his front legs and bawled and bit and licked at my Dad's clothes, wanting to hurt him so bad. Dad said he was there for about 4 hours before the bull lost interest and left him. I still remember him coming home as I was getting ready for school, his clothes a mess and he looking pretty bad also. The bull was later killed after it attacked an oil lease pumper, wrecking his truck. The moral is: anything that big can be dangerous. Good luck and good shooting, Eterry Good luck and good shooting. In Memory of Officer Nik Green, #198, Oklahoma Highway Patrol Troop G...Murdered in the line of duty 12-26-03...A Good Man, A Good Officer, and A Good Friend gone too soon | |||
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Up until a few yearss ago the National Forest Service leased their land for people to run cattle on. So I doubt that what you saw were feral, just spooky. Hog Killer IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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cape buff-bovine. water buff,bovine. American bison,bovine. Brahma, Santa Getrudis, all bovine, all can be dangerous. some more conditioned to humans than others. might be a "new" dangerous game here in So. Tx. the meanest cattle I've seen are the Mexican fighting bulls. they're bred to be aggressive. maybe we should hunt wild bovines instead of whitetails. might have something here. Kurt. | |||
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Cows are the ones you need to watch. I have been part of a ranching operation all my life. Bulls are big and slow. They are only dangerous in a confined area, and if you are not alert. Actually, cows are only aggressive in confined areas as well - As a General Rule! However, those @#$!@$^@% cows are the ones that break all the rules!!! "Mean/Bad Tempered" bulls are sold. (that is a period following that sentence for good reason) Mean cows are shot and dragged off to the bone pile! (exclamation, again, with good reason) Ask any REAL rancher and you will find the same information. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. | |||
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Brangus are inherently dangerous according to sons of ranchers I attended the Univ of AZ with. | |||
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we hunt cebues in the south and nrth of our country ,we killed a lot of them every year ,i have a lot of clients who came to test rifles and bullets with these creatures .Juan www.huntinginargentina.com.ar FULL PROFESSIONAL MEMBER OF IPHA INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS ASOCIATION . DSC PROFESSIONAL MEMBER DRSS--SCI NRA IDPA IPSC-FAT -argentine shooting federation cred number2- | |||
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One immediate benefit would be a FULL freezer!  Regards, WE | |||
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a FULL freezer? Where do I sign up? AllanD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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I've hunted some pretty remote ranches in Mexico. With in pastures that may not have had but a handful of people in since Via camped his army, and cows that may not have ever seen a person before. They may have been skidish, but none seemed to be dangerous, not going to say danger involved in wild cow hunting is urban legend, but under the right circumstances a dairy bull can be pretty rough. Billy, High in the shoulder (we band of bubbas) | |||
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A cow can seem very "feral" if it has a calf and you go walking through a pasture with your dog. My wife was once chased by a herd of cows when she was out walking with my dog. She climbed a small tree and even put my dog in the tree!! She had been in the tree for 15 or 20 minutes when I happened to drive by in the jeep. Where is a camera when you need one! It's good that she didn't have a gun, because she probably would have just shot my dog. | |||
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i read in capsticks book death in the lonely land about the wild oxen in Brazil, it was 7 foot high at the shoulder and so agressive that jaguars didnt go after them. thats probably the Luca Braci of oxes. i saw a large bull here in norway several years ago, he was tame and he weighed 1400 kg!, what if he lived in the forrest and was wild, tahat would be very interresting if Walther wrote about that, that would be cool to send Saeed and walther after wild oxeen. | |||
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there was a norwegian hunting firm tah t had a hunting tour to cuba where the goal was feral bulls, but this was escaped indian cattle that weighed a little over a ton bulls, and it was a little bit exiting in the bush, where a beast on a ton or so charged and the only they could do was too stand still and fire fast,sure, and keep on shooting. unfortunately they cant import rifles into cuba anymore so that hunt opprtunity has ended temporarily, if anyone of the presidents staff reads this or in the CIA could you please change the goverment and fill it with avid hunters and shooters from AR. Walther as El Presidente, that could be fun to watch, my estate would have to be la Finca Viga | |||
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Just now i have several cebues to kill in a remote farm of a friend .Juan www.huntinginargentina.com.ar FULL PROFESSIONAL MEMBER OF IPHA INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS ASOCIATION . DSC PROFESSIONAL MEMBER DRSS--SCI NRA IDPA IPSC-FAT -argentine shooting federation cred number2- | |||
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I see your Chapius 375 is accumulating field experience. I hear 9.3x62/250gnWoodleigh to be an emphatic performer on scrubbull. emphatic=sudden&strong,forceful&definite | |||
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We are killing some cebues in this time in a ranch of a friend ,he will rent the ranch so he needs to sell all the cebues, but he had to sell its meat ,we shot them with 375hyh ,458,460wby,475ne hyh express rifle of my fathers friend ,etc a good test for our weapons in Mar Chiquita lagoon area a lagoon bigger than the death sea .Juan www.huntinginargentina.com.ar FULL PROFESSIONAL MEMBER OF IPHA INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS ASOCIATION . DSC PROFESSIONAL MEMBER DRSS--SCI NRA IDPA IPSC-FAT -argentine shooting federation cred number2- | |||
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