Ok, I am looking into creating a vat o fermented corn, and bottling the juice beings you cant use bait on public land. Any recipes?

Taken directly from a minor pig hunting publication:

100 lbs corn
12 egges, (broken)
1 pound sugar.

Put in a plastic tub (with lid). Cover mixture with water, and add water periodically to make sure that the mixture is always covered with water.

Wait until the cockroaches gag, and then it's ready.

I can't comment on how good it it, as hunting over bait is not allowed where I hunt in California, but it seems like it would work very well.

I'm confused .Do you drink that stuff to get up enough courage to hunt pigs ???

cna't tell you how to use something for use on public land..

I can tell you how to sour corn....

per sack of corn
2 packs of bread yeast
2 12 oz cans of beer
1 2liter bottle of "big red or other strawberry soda

mix in a barrel/bucket with a lid... put enough water to just BARELY float it...

stir well... place lid on top,, do NOT seal, but get 3/4 sealed..

let sit 5 to 10 days....

sir in a cup of motor oil/diesel...

pour into whatever dispersment you like

jeffe

You can find all the info you could possibly want at http://www.texasboars.com

The site isn't as upscale as this one, but the people are very nice and know about everything there is to know about hunting and trapping wild pigs in the USA.

analog_peninsula

It's very simple.

Plastic bucket + Corn + Cover with Water + 1-2 weeks = Stinky corn.

Hog Killer

we had been useing hog wild brand stink to add to corn and could tell some difference from just corn. this weekend I had some welches grape juice at my camp that had gone bad with green stuff growing in it so I dumped that over fresh corn and put it out and the pigs were fighting over it dambdest thing you ever saw killed three out of that bunch they seem to like that so im thinkin boons farm wine or md20/20 might work diesel works great if you dont want to eat em.

also if you want to sour something for them use wheat it sours in water in 3-4 days and realy stinks

Sours a lot quicker if you use "natural water" such as out of a creek, lake, or pond, plus toss a handful of dirt in for a starter. Chlorine in tap water hinders the bacterial growth.

Kept a bucket full of soured milo sitting on my dock when I lived on the lake--dual purpose. If I wanted to fish, I chummed with the milo and fished on bottom using chicken liver. If my neighbors had p----- me off (usually), I just left the bucket setting by the fence with the lid off (next to their dock). They didn't spend much time at the dock if the lid was off the bucket.

Thanks for the info. You guys letting these buckets sit in the sun, or just like a back porch deal? It seems like if I am only draining off the water to use, I might be able to keep a vat going as long as I keep adding water. I have a spray bottle of tuff tusk, but I wanna do it my own way. You know, one of those sun tea maker jars with the spigot on the bottom might be the ticket for easy spray bottle filling too! I totally just thought of that right now.

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I had a friend who was a beginner hunter and joined our deer lease. I helped him fix up a real nice spot with mowed right of ways to put his stand on. He put out a corn feeder and killed a deer or two off of it and all in all was doing pretty well.... Until....

He decided he wanted to kill his first hog, but didn't have any coming around his feeder (LUCKY HIM). Well, one weekend he had a really big get together at his house with a lot friends and boiled 150 punds of crawfish with potatoes, whole onions, etc. (coonass style). The left overs included about 30 gallons of "juice" along with potatoes, crawfish heads, etc. LMAO...

In his infinite wisdom he decided to pour it on the ground right by his ONLY feeder!!!

"Here's your sign"

JESUS, the hogs came from two counties to that crap and in short order they completely destroyed the feeder... Man, when it started rotting you could smell the stench for what seemed like a mile. He begged everyone on the lease to PLEASE sit on this stand and try to beat down the stampede of hogs coming to the juice..

It soaked into the ground and over about a week the damn hogs dug a hole that was about four feet deep in the middle and sloping up to about eight or ten feet in diameter... it was the craziest thing I have ever seen and I have been around a while! If I ever get really mad at someone I now know how to get even!!!

Oh yeah, he finally had to move the stand because the deer quit coming because the "hog pen" stunk too bad... I guess the moral to this story is - Be careful what you wish for...

Don't know what happened a couple hours ago, made a reply and posted it, but, it's not on here so will try again.

Some years ago I found a buyer for prairie dog heads $2 each, coyote heads $4and sometimes he wanted whole p/dogs for $10 if not blown up too bad.
Since they only wanted quantity shipments. I picked up and old beat upright freezer and some styrofoam coolers to freeze them in. Once full I'd call and tell them then ship it by UPS. They even paid the fee's.

During the heat of the summer I'd gotten the wife p'd at me. Normal married life situation.
To get even with me she unplugged the freezer for a couple weeks when I was busy and couldn't get away to go shoot more. There were around 6 whole animals and 75 or more heads. Having most days 100 or higher temps things cooked quite well in there.

Finally I got time to go shoot more and when I opened the door to put the new one's in the stink knocked me over!! I called to tell them this batch they'd requested had rotted. The lady said "our beetles don't care how they smell, refreeze and ship 'em, so I did".

Had the boxes sealed real well and couldn't be smelled. Took them to UPS and a new girl insisted she had to inspect every box inside, "that's the Fed Laws" she claimed. I did my best to explain they were full of rotted p'dog heads and bodies and she sure didn't want to see that magot infested mess with the horrendous stink. The head gal just grinned and when we saw there was no convincing her otherwise. She kicked a big trash barrel over next to her. I told her to have at it, and stepped to the doorway to keep others out and be in fresh air. By the time she got the barrel filled up, socks, panties and all I was beginning to feel sorry for her. The other gal had gone to the far end of the building into a closed office and just watched out the window as she knew me and what I was telling the girl was the whole truth. She'd inspected a freshly frozen one a couple months before so she knew what was coming up.

They bought the shipment just fine. Over six or 8 months I'd sold enough to pay for a complete rebuild on my varmint rifle. New stock, scope, and barrel. Sure wish I could get back into doing that for sale again.

When I got back home worked for two weeks trying to cut the stink out of the freezer with ten pounds of baking soda mix, and vinegar. Just couldn't get it where I could stand it in my shop. So called the local trapper and asked if he'd like to have a big freezer for just helping me unload it. Said to bring it out. Once we got it rolled to his "bait" mixing building he opened the door and sucked in a big breath; "aahh, that's gonna make great bait, perfect smell!" YUCK!!

Like was posted in the last one, "Be careful of what you wish for".
Hope you enjoyed this little story.

George

Go to feralhog.tamu.edu and go into trap design. There's a recipe for sour corn.

Huh, the fun things I learn here.

I recommend digging a hole at least 2 feet deep and pouring your mix into it. The hogs will root it out pretty good but they won't be able to get all of it and the smell will linger so they will keep coming back to it.
Deer, cattle etc will leave it alone too because they don't root like a hog does.

what hogkiller said. water grain bucket sun simple and works well.

One other thing to consider--use small grains like wheat or milo--takes the hogs a lot longer to clean the small kernels up as opposed to corn. Downside is that the rats and birds can fill up on the smaller grains.

Just for the fun of it.

Waaaayy back in 1961 working for a local farmer that put me to driving a junky old 1949-50 Chevy grain truck that wouldn't keep running. It quit me, called the mechanic and he chewed me out claiming nothing was wrong with it. Less than 1/4 mile down the road it quit him and he pulled over on the edge.

The bank gave way and tipped it on it's side dumping a 18' bed full of just harvested wheat into a water filled ditch. We and ten others spent several days dipping that mess out in five gallons buckets.

The grainery wouldn't put that stuff in the bins. Had it dumped on the concrete slab in the sun. Not only did it stink, it created "puffed wheat" like you wouldn't believe. PLUS, both that pile and the ditch grew quite a crop in short order.

Of course the farmer lost his butt on that load and was NOT happy at the two of us.

I still think about that day/week everytime I drive by that spot. He's long dead too.

Learned something yesterday that may be of help... It appears that the "Hog Wild" that is sold in stores is nothing but a highly concentrated salt brine with some sort of fruit flavoring added. I was looking at a container in a Houston store yesterday, and one of the clerks told me the stuff was very salty. He pointed out the top of one of the containers, and it was indeed crusted over. I have no reason to doubt him, and it stands to reason that hogs would come to salt; every animal does. But isn't salt illegal as an "attractant"? I guess technically it can be used because pigs aren't a game animal?

Face it, salt works.

When I was a kid in the 60's worked a high country CO ranch where we hunted elk in season.

Rancher and I did things we shouldn't have during 'farmers seasons'.

One of them was placing salt blocks in likely place's. All within his forest lease of course.

They did work for elk too.

I'd figure for hogs, they'd prefer something to eat better. Just a guess though.

George

Let me ask you fellows this question. In an area where you have a very high, and I mean very high, population of black bear, will you find hogs?

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Originally posted by starmetal:
Let me ask you fellows this question. In an area where you have a very high, and I mean very high, population of black bear, will you find hogs?

CA has a substantial numbers of black bears some of which are infected with trichinella spiralis probably from killing and eating feral hogs.

Thanks, The reason I ask is I live in Eastern TN. TN is pretty loaded with black bear, especially my area. I'm in the very mountainous area and although TN has some terrific hog hunting, this area is dead. I just wondered if it's because of our particularly high bear population.

I know the bear hunters here don't care to eat bear meat, wonder if that's the reason you gave.

Joe

Hogs cannot sweat and therefore cannot process salt and thus are not attracted to it. I can put a salt block in my hog pens (did when I first began raising boars and didn't know better) and they will sniff it once or twice and then never mess with it. Put something sweet in there and IT'S GONE!!!

Well, I have a vat o corn going right now, got the cracked corn from the feed store. Got it going in an iced tea maker with spigot at the bottom, been adding water and pouring out about once a week now. I add about the same amount of water I take out, give it a stir, and go back the next week. works like a charm. I bottle the stuff in used water bottles into the bait freezer. This stuff smells so bad, my wife took a whiff and almost pissed her pants! That is my goal. The next season starts in a week or so, I wanna dig a hole, dump about a gallon of the stuff, cover, and dump some more. should be a blast!! I guess I will "cook" and bottle all year long till I burn up that 50lb bag I bought. I should go to 2 liter bottles for sure now that I think about it. After I get a pit goin I can maintain by adding a small bottle or 2 every time I go out. That's the ticket.