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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
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I do not apologise to you Perry, because this is your typical modus operandi, not matter the discussion or the subject, you go out of your way everytime to attack my opinion in one fashion or another. As long as you treat me like crap, I am going to respond in kind. As I have said before, if I am such a thorn in your side, put me on ignore. That will save everyone from seeing this type of discussion, pretty simple concept.

If you disagree with my opinion, just say so. I also have nothing against agreeing to disagree that saves a lot of time. It is when you attack me or my opinions that I have a problem.

Please sight for us, cut and paste please, from the posts you refer to. I do not think I have ever "attacked your opinion". In all honesty, I really think you have me confused with someone else.

Perry

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Originally posted by perry:

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
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I do not apologise to you Perry, because this is your typical modus operandi, not matter the discussion or the subject, you go out of your way everytime to attack my opinion in one fashion or another. As long as you treat me like crap, I am going to respond in kind. As I have said before, if I am such a thorn in your side, put me on ignore. That will save everyone from seeing this type of discussion, pretty simple concept.

If you disagree with my opinion, just say so. I also have nothing against agreeing to disagree that saves a lot of time. It is when you attack me or my opinions that I have a problem.

Please sight for us, cut and paste please, from the posts you refer to. I do not think I have ever "attacked your opinion". In all honesty, I really think you have me confused with someone else.

Perry

I went as far back as June 2008 and have not seen a single conversation we have had on line CHC. What am I missing here????

Perry

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I went as far back as June 2008 and have not seen a single conversation we have had on line CHC. What am I missing here????

Perry:

You're missing the fact that you're dealing with an idiot who can't keep up from day to day what he says, or who he said it to. That should help clear up your confusion.

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Originally posted by 505G:

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Originally posted by MyDogsHunt:
Well,,, I certainly wouldn't call it hunting.
Just wanton killing IMO.
Nothing more, nothing less.

So what is the difference between that and me and a mate out hunting Buffalo, see a mob of hogs on a flood plain, get as close as we can and then brass then mob up so all of them are dead ?

7 Hogs down in all different directions from 2 bolt action rifles in 15 - 20 seconds.

Is that wanton killing ? Because all we did was what he was doing but with different types of firearms.

(Yes, we did use the meat).

Sorry to disapoint but if you're looking for a fight, you'll have to look elsewhere.
I posted my opinion and said it wan't "hunting" IMO.
I have my opinion and you have yours. To bad you didn't read (and quote) my whole statement because you would have seen that I said I wouldn't pass judgement. Same goes for you and your "mates" with their bolt guns.

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Originally posted by perry:
Am I missing something here????
THEY ARE HOGS, FERAL HOGS! Giant rats, nothing more.

"Locked up for 5-10 years" for doing nothing illegal. Jarrod you are a true SOCIALIST!

Crazy Horse, could you sight for me the date when TP&W added hogs on the list of "wildlife"? Last I check they were listed as nuisance animals, in abudance. Quoting indians...geez, really. Conservationist CONSERVE the habitat and that would include removing feral animals. Would poison or large traps make you feel better about how you are viewed by those how do not approve of hunting to start out with?


Perry

Im am as far from a socialitst as it gets. My post did not mean locked up for 5 to 10 years it meant lose his hunting license for 5 to 10 years for doint something as pathetic as that. I don't consider hogs rats. Do they reproduce quick sure they do. But if you wound one to run off it suffers just the same as a whitetail or elk or anything else would. They taste good too
My problem with the video that was posted is he could have taken an AR or M-14 or or something similar and actually took aimed shots and he would have probably killed more and not had the wounded ones running off.
I don't care if its a hog or a deer or bear I will never spray and pray at a live animal for them to run off and suffer a lingering death.
And this whole thing about not being illegal. Something doesn't have to be illegal to be wrong

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Originally posted by Jarrod:

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Originally posted by perry:
Am I missing something here????
THEY ARE HOGS, FERAL HOGS! Giant rats, nothing more.

"Locked up for 5-10 years" for doing nothing illegal. Jarrod you are a true SOCIALIST!

Crazy Horse, could you sight for me the date when TP&W added hogs on the list of "wildlife"? Last I check they were listed as nuisance animals, in abudance. Quoting indians...geez, really. Conservationist CONSERVE the habitat and that would include removing feral animals. Would poison or large traps make you feel better about how you are viewed by those how do not approve of hunting to start out with?


Perry

Im am as far from a socialitst as it gets. My post did not mean locked up for 5 to 10 years it meant lose his hunting license for 5 to 10 years for doint something as pathetic as that. I don't consider hogs rats. Do they reproduce quick sure they do. But if you wound one to run off it suffers just the same as a whitetail or elk or anything else would.
My problem with the video that was posted is he could have taken an AR or M-14 or or something similar and actually took aimed shots and he would have probably killed more and not had the wounded ones running off.
I don't care if its a hog or a deer or bear I will never spray and pray at a live animal for them to run off and suffer a lingering death.
And this whole thing about not being illegal. Something doesn't have to be legal to be wrong

Well said, Jarrod.

Perry, I a,m not going to waste my time looking for anything, simply because what I or any other individual perceives as a Personal attack is THEIR perogative.

Buddy up with your old pal gatogordo, because you have made commentss directed at me just like the one he made, and it is not up to a committee to decide if it was a personal attack or not.

Any idiot knows you are not going to find anything wrong, not because there isn't but because you are defending yourself.

If I took the time to go back and finmd all ther cases where we have crossed swords, you would deny all of it and feign innocence.

It has nothing to do with how YOU CLAIM to have meant something, it is how I perceive the way you responded.

I make one off the wall comment on this thread, and you go on the attack and it is sometrhing you and gatogordo do on a consistant basis.

Notice his comments about me and he has not been involved in this thread up to this point. If that is not an open attack on me, what is? You Sir make the exact same kind of attacks.

As to the discussion concerning the video, Do You feel That It Is Appropriate For It To Be Available to The Public In General?

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Originally posted by Jarrod:

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Originally posted by perry:
Am I missing something here????
THEY ARE HOGS, FERAL HOGS! Giant rats, nothing more.

"Locked up for 5-10 years" for doing nothing illegal. Jarrod you are a true SOCIALIST!

Crazy Horse, could you sight for me the date when TP&W added hogs on the list of "wildlife"? Last I check they were listed as nuisance animals, in abudance. Quoting indians...geez, really. Conservationist CONSERVE the habitat and that would include removing feral animals. Would poison or large traps make you feel better about how you are viewed by those how do not approve of hunting to start out with?


Perry

Im am as far from a socialitst as it gets. My post did not mean locked up for 5 to 10 years it meant lose his hunting license for 5 to 10 years for doint something as pathetic as that. I don't consider hogs rats. Do they reproduce quick sure they do. But if you wound one to run off it suffers just the same as a whitetail or elk or anything else would. They taste good too
My problem with the video that was posted is he could have taken an AR or M-14 or or something similar and actually took aimed shots and he would have probably killed more and not had the wounded ones running off.
I don't care if its a hog or a deer or bear I will never spray and pray at a live animal for them to run off and suffer a lingering death.
And this whole thing about not being illegal. Something doesn't have to be legal to be wrong

I completely agree with you about not wanting to see ANY animals suffering and I don't really think your a socialist, I apologize for that. BUT he did not do anything illegal therefore he can not/SHOULD NOT be incarcerated or have rights/priviledges revoked. We start locking people up based on what certain individual's deam as wrong and we become a fascist nation, plain and simple. Praying and spraying, while not effective, can only leads to bad things.

Again, I apologise for calling you a socialist.

Perry

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Perry, I a,m not going to waste my time looking for anything, simply because what I or any other individual perceives as a Personal attack is THEIR perogative.

Buddy up with your old pal gatogordo, because you have made commentss directed at me just like the one he made, and it is not up to a committee to decide if it was a personal attack or not.

Any idiot knows you are not going to find anything wrong, not because there isn't but because you are defending yourself.

If I took the time to go back and finmd all ther cases where we have crossed swords, you would deny all of it and feign innocence.

It has nothing to do with how YOU CLAIM to have meant something, it is how I perceive the way you responded.

I make one off the wall comment on this thread, and you go on the attack and it is sometrhing you and gatogordo do on a consistant basis.

Notice his comments about me and he has not been involved in this thread up to this point. If that is not an open attack on me, what is? You Sir make the exact same kind of attacks.

As to the discussion concerning the video, Do You feel That It Is Appropriate For It To Be Available to The Public In General?

I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt that you have me confused with someone else. I did take the time to go back and look simply because this is a public forum and I do not want to be percieved as someone that blatantly attacks others from the saftey of a keyboard. I do not hide behind a made up name, I am proud of mine and will defend the honor to which I was raised with. I looked at every post I have ever been a part of back to June 2008 and you and I have NEVER interacted that I found or can remember.

CHC you are DISHONEST AND A LIAR! From this point forward I will make it a point to not speak with you.


Perry

ENOUGH!

Cease and desist. Argue valid points without the personal attacks. What in the hell is wrong with everyone here over the last couple of weeks? Is the heat getting to y'all?

Good grief! We have enough enemies outside of our hunting/shooting circles that we shouldn't make enemies of one another. Cool the hell down.

The heat, the economy, the upcoming elections and No Open Hunting Season. I have fixed things the best I can.

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Originally posted by perry:

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Originally posted by Jarrod:

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Originally posted by perry:
Am I missing something here????
THEY ARE HOGS, FERAL HOGS! Giant rats, nothing more.

"Locked up for 5-10 years" for doing nothing illegal. Jarrod you are a true SOCIALIST!

Crazy Horse, could you sight for me the date when TP&W added hogs on the list of "wildlife"? Last I check they were listed as nuisance animals, in abudance. Quoting indians...geez, really. Conservationist CONSERVE the habitat and that would include removing feral animals. Would poison or large traps make you feel better about how you are viewed by those how do not approve of hunting to start out with?


Perry

Im am as far from a socialitst as it gets. My post did not mean locked up for 5 to 10 years it meant lose his hunting license for 5 to 10 years for doint something as pathetic as that. I don't consider hogs rats. Do they reproduce quick sure they do. But if you wound one to run off it suffers just the same as a whitetail or elk or anything else would. They taste good too
My problem with the video that was posted is he could have taken an AR or M-14 or or something similar and actually took aimed shots and he would have probably killed more and not had the wounded ones running off.
I don't care if its a hog or a deer or bear I will never spray and pray at a live animal for them to run off and suffer a lingering death.
And this whole thing about not being illegal. Something doesn't have to be legal to be wrong

I completely agree with you about not wanting to see ANY animals suffering and I don't really think your a socialist, I apologize for that. BUT he did not do anything illegal therefore he can not/SHOULD NOT be incarcerated or have rights/priviledges revoked. We start locking people up based on what certain individual's deam as wrong and we become a fascist nation, plain and simple. Praying and spraying, while not effective, can only leads to bad things.

Again, I apologise for calling you a socialist.

Perry

No need to apologize. I didn't take it personal. I did edit my first post a little so that it would be more clear as to what I meant.
You are correct sir that we can't go around locking people up for doing something that is legal regardless what our personal opinion is. But I can choose not to participate in it

The video is great for showing round count can't make up for poor shooting skills . I'm glad no one had a camera rolling the first time I took an AR hog hunting. The ranch we helo hunt is absolutely over run with hogs. The ranch begged me to come hunt and bring as many people out as possible. I barrowed an AR, loaded up 2 mags and went looking for hogs. The first bunch i found I dumped the entire mag in about 10 seconds at 40 hogs...2 lay dead...none wounded. I imediately realized you still have to aim to hit something even with an ultra cool looking killing devise.

Perry

Well, since we're all having this come to Jesus moment, let me clarify my "Wonton Killing" statement.
First, if that were some kind of ADC work, I'd be fine with it, but that STUNT is far from ADC work or hunting and was clearly staged for the theatrics.
Therefore, "IMO it's Wanton Killing. Nothing more, nothing less".
It does however make all hunters and sportsmen look bad reguardless of the laws or what anyone else says.
Again,,, JMO.

[quote]It does however make all hunters and sportsmen look bad reguardless of the laws or what anyone else says.quote]

First thought, Last thought, whatever, the above statement is what it all boil down to, PERIOD.

I do not give a damn who anyone is or what they think, kill the pigs any way you want to, kill as many pigs as you want to, totally eradicate the sumbiches, I do not care. But whatever you do, have the damn commonsense to NOT put a video of it on the internet!!!!!!

That is Not mensa candidate reasoning or thinking. We ALL have to remember that because hunter numbers are declining, World Wide, each of us that are passionate about the sport and participate in it at any level are ambassadors for the sport when dealing/interacting with those that do not hunt.

As I stated elsewhere, we ALL need to start viewing what goes on during a hunt with the same attitude as the advertising campaign for Las vegas tourism with a minor change, "What happens in hunting camp does not have to stay in hunting camp, But, may need to be edited for Public consumption"!!!!

Hunters need to stop concerning themselves with the anti-hunters, those people have their minds set and are not going to change them, End Of Story!


We have to concern ourselves with not alienating the general public that really do not care one way or the other, and videos, such as the one this discussion has revolved around do not need to be put into the public venue.