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Details of hunt will follow...but let's have a little fun first... How much do you think it weighs....give me a few guesses? Shooting a big bore (376 Steyr...ok maybe it is only a big bore for us wimps in CA) prone can have certain disadvantages... This is not the pig that gave me the "beauty mark", that one got away... This pig was taken at paced off 10 yards. Yes, a whopping 10 yards. The pic above is after about 10 minutes of first aid clean up. The pic below is 36 hours later Below is my hunting buddy Roger who took this pig the next morning...his was somewhat bigger in body with great tusks... Roger took his with a Remington 700 that has been re-chambered to 300 Hawk Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | ||
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Nice pig, Mike! I would guess he weighs around 200-lbs. Let's hear the details! Congrats! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Whitworth...that is a pretty good guess...you are with in 5%.... anybody else hazard a guess...is whitworth high or low Hunt was with Kyler Hamann of Boaring Experiences...probably my dozenth hunt with him... more details...in a little while...I have a headache so typing is not fun fun Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Nice pig Mike. Possibly getting "tattoo'd is why I went to a scout mount and love it | |||
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I'd have said about 175 but pics are really difficult to judge from, a lot depends on how tall the pig is, how chunky he is, where the hunter is in relation to pig, camera angle, lense used, etc. Based on your hint, I'd say 190. A funny thing I've noticed about the pigs I shoot is they have ground growth, talking about full sized pigs, I almost always think they're smaller before I shoot than they actually are. Many's the time I've shot an "eating" size pig, get up to it and think, "Uh oh, now how am I going to get this heavy SOB back to camp." xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Care to say how far the pig that got away was? I think I'd move my scope forward a bit if you plan to keep on shooting that rifle prone, but you might try it one more time and see what happens, I hear some people are slow learners. Personally, if I've got to go prone to shoot something, unless it is shooting back, I'll just let it go, too many snakes in my neck of the woods. OTOH we have a lot of handy trees for support. I've shot big and little calibers all my life and the ONLY one that ever drew blood on my end was a Thompson Center Contender rifle in .223. I cut it's plastic stock off REAL short so my 7 year old could shoot a deer with it. After he'd killed several and a couple of years later, I was fooling around and thought, "I'll just check the zero." so held it loosely over hood of truck (I was shooting pistols that day, no bench) and fired it off....THOINK, slight blood loss and the personal thought of "Dumbass". xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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The porky went to 210. Roger's went 235. My gun was a 376 steyr built on a 1908 Brazilian. I got cut when I took about a 175 yard shot at a pig from prone position. I hit the pig it squealed and ran off. We never found it. I have blown shots before but my rest was rock solid and I really don't know what happened. Well clearly I screwed something up...we know that happened. I found chunks of meat where the pig was standing strung over about 15 ft like it had been blown out the off side of the animal. No blood at all. I figure I was forward on the animal because I don't think I missed by 2 1/2 feet to the back side. When I squeezed off we heard a loud smack, the pig did a 360, stumbled then took off like a scalled cat. We looked and looked where we saw it run into the trees and I decided to go back to where I had hit it. While I am looking for signs of spore where the pig is originally standing, Kyler the guide starts whistling. I look over and he is motioning for me to get down. Three more pigs are headed right at me. So I get down and the 3 pigs keep coming and then stop about 75 yards away on the wrong side of the fence. But I see a 4th pig heading down about 20 yards to the left of the first group. Kyler and my buddy Roger don't see the 4th pig. It really should be my buddy Roger's turn to shoot but they are about 70 yards to my right and the pig that is coming in is to my left. The pig heads straight for where I am and I am hopin he veers hard towards Roger and Kyler and I can back out of the way. But this pig has a death wish and heads straight at me...stops at 10 yards and put his noise in the air. So I nailed him. Roger and Kyler have never seen the pig so when I touch off a round there I like "WTF, over". Well it's a heart shot and the pig takes off towards me but is angling away. But given the angle, Kyler thinks I am getting charged but he can't shoot because he is on the wrong side of me...so now he is thinking his client who has his head split open from his rifle is going to get gored and run over by this pig. Then he sees the pig pass behind me and tip over dead. It was fun but I still always feel sick about losing that first animal. Roger shot his the next morning. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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So I did well with my guess! I have bounced the red dot on my .475 Linebaugh off of my forehead many a time! No honor lost there -- wear your scars with pride! Nice cutters on the second pig! Everyone loses an animal at some point -- it happens. That's hunting. That you feel bad is a good reflection on the type of person you are...... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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If you play with the bigger stuff your going to get thumped once in a while. The last I got hit with was a .458 Lott I built for a guy who needed a length of pull about 2" shorter than me. When I fired for groups before sending it off to him I got hit twice, but it still clover leafed the group. Yes it's cocked, and it has bullets too!!! | |||
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NICE piggy Mikey!! I would have guess 160-170, so wow, great pig... sorry about the scope cut.. dude! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Mike is that your first love tap? I bet that you are cured of crawling the stock from now on. Nice pig though. And 600,, where in hell did you take that THING? and what was the story? (When I was a kid my father used to tell me that God hated a coward, I finally realized he has even less use for a fool.) | |||
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Mike: For whatever reason, I'd say that you probably hit the lost pig too far back, maybe he moved just as you pulled it off.....if you'd hit him too far forward, chances are he'd have either fallen down (high or low neck shot, in which they often can get up in a couple of seconds) or he wouldn't have squealed and turned around. Pigs are really tough if they're hit too far back, and it doesn't have to be a lot too far, and then they can run a long ways before expiring. Personally, unlike what a lot of people recommend, I like rapidly expanding bullets, like ballistic tips or the old Nosler Solid base on pigs. For instance, I was deer hunting late last year and a group of pigs showed up under a corn feeder about 95 yards from my stand. I wait a bit, thinking a really big one might come out, then mentally say, "A bird in the hand..." and line up on what I hope is a "twofer". Shot the first pig (bullet likely didn't penetrate, I don't recall checking now) and the lined up pig #2 and all of his buddies except one duck back into the woods which are all of about 5 yards from them. The one loner, he jumped and ran the wrong way, for about 10 yards, realized his buddies were going back the other way and reversed course and took off after them. Meantime, I'm working bolt on .300 WM with 165 Nosler solid bases and getting back on....pig is in full run about 100 yards and I'm locked in on rail of stand....so I "swing" as best I could, which isn't much, on pig and put the crosshairs about 6 inches to a foot in front of his nose......and fire just as he hits the woods. I really didn't know if I had hit him or not, but searched for a while and found him about 75 yards in, no blood trail. bullet hit him dead center of body, right in middle of his length, he was bigger than the one under the feeder, probably in the 175 plus range. Did not exit, but then, neither did pig. Just goes to show you how much you have to lead a full out pig. I've lead them like 6 or 8 feet at a couple of hundred yards plus and still hit them far back. I want to point out that I make every effort to recover and make use of anything I shoot but around here, anything that causes a pig, wounded, lost, or whatever to die is a good result. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Gato, The reason I din't think it was back as I found no guts...just lieteraly 4 or 5 chunks of pig burger. I would have thought I would have guts too and if I hit mim even farther back I wpuld have expected to break hips or a leg...but who knows. Bullet was only a 250 grn Sierra goung about 2600 Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Bucko, Yep my first luv tap Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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bucko -- there's a thread in this forum about .600 OK's hunt for that monster -- do a search and you will get the details -- it weighed just shy of 500-lbs! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Mike, I have a distinct advantage because I have seen you up close so I would guess that you weigh around 245 pounds. | |||
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Wrong again chick...tipping th scales at a svelt 225 Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Congrats Mike! NICE piggie. Heckova story too. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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Wow Mike you are such a LIAR!!! That's not how it happened AT ALL! Okay, okay - that is how the hunt went down - it just doesn't seem like a true internet forum post if two people agree on anything... As always it was a pleasure to hunt with Roger and yourself. We took two more boars the evening after you left but both of them put together didn't have the dental work of either of yours. We should have propped the jaw open on yours to show of it's handlebars. You've really GOT to find a better guide... Speaking of lieing: Here are my photos. I'm not afraid to lay in the dirt with my camera so my photos are typically more flattering (phabricated ;-). Thanks again for the ammo. The condors thank you too. Great hunting with great hunters, Kyler | |||
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Again, nice hogs!! Congratulations!! Kyler, I keep threatening to come hunt with you, and I intend to do so the next trip make to the left coast! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I was going to guess that the critter with the rifle and the band aid was a bit heavier.... "When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all." Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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Hi Whitworth, I'm flattered you'd consider hunting with me. Please understand there was some luck involved and we hit a unique window of opportunity to get a chance at such nice boars. Not to take anything away from Mike and Roger, they did there part. I just don't want to imply that I can always provide a chance at pigs like this. Heck, sometimes it's hard to find any pigs at all much less something with a big smile. Take care, Kyler | |||
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Kyler, I'm not naive enough to expect trophies like that every time you go out, but I wouldn't complain! Why would you be flattered? Everyone knows that you run a first rate operation! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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FYI, the scope does have a rubber coated edge...I just got smacked really hard Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Mike, I've shot that rifle.. how in the heck did you get your head so far forward? I don't think I could make it touch my forehead, if the butt was on my shoulder.. Where you laying on your backpack? opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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talent Jeff...pure talent on my part Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Hey, it happens to the best of us........and the worst, I guess...... A hunter is not complete if he hasn't scope-eyed himself at least once! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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