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Gents: This is my first time posting on the pig section. Here is a photo of the exit hole from my .600 NE on a running warthog in Zim this past July. It's not just high velocity super magnums that leave a huge hole with meat destruction. Look at the damage done here from a 900-grain Woodleigh at a muzzle velocity of 1900 fps! I doubt the bullet mushroomed much, if at all. The pig was surprised and took off running and I took a quick snap shot with the left barrel. I tried to follow the pig's shoulder but my bullet hit far to the rear. (My Wilkes is an original from 1914). Yes, the shot is too far back and a quick walk up and another shot dispatched the hog quickly. Distance was probably 40 feet. Not only is the exit wound larger that I would ever expect but note the hide split to the rear of teh hole. I have recoverd bullets on larger game that mushroom to 1 1/2" but don't know how much expansion happened here. Interesting? Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | ||
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Cal, good heavens, man. Just stuff him in a sausage casing and smoke. No grinding required! There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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That's a major mess. Save the ivories? Hell of a slug for a lil ol pig! George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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Impressive. Did all your woodleighs hold up Cal ? I had one or two break up on me on the 600. | |||
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To the shotplacment is everything crowd, The high priest of big bores has spoken, and his sacrifice has been consumed and found satisfactory to the hunting God. All small bore and shotplacment is everything pagens convert now the harvest is at hand. In all seriousness, wow! | |||
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Jan: I've never had a problem with Woodleighs. Here are some examples from the last few buffalo and hippo. Solids lost 2-3 grains, softs 10-15 grains. Cal PS. Sorry, one moose, also. _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Very nice Cal. I must've had a bad batch. I had 2 break up on Buffalo and two broke up shooting into a sand backstop. Actually Doctari shot the ones into the backstop. The others held up well. What powder and load did you use on them ? | |||
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Jan: In my nitro cases from .450-400 and up I use IMR 4831 in all the cartridges. (I use IMR 3031 in the smaller cases). For the .600 I shoot 160 grains for softs and 155 grains for solids as my rifle was regulated for the 110-grain charge of cordite. I know other powders will lessen recoil but 4831 is what I cut my teeth on and I have a bunch of it so I will use it up (but it will take many years). In addition to the two rifles mentioned, I also use it in my .450 no2 and .500. In my bore rifles (4-8-10-12) I use only Blue Dot, with lead projectiles (ball and conical). In my bpe rifles (450-500-577) I use only IMR 4198 with both lead and jacketed bullets. I did a bit of shooting with powder coated bullets over the summer and showed no change in accuracy nor velocity so this fall (and early winter) I will be powder coating lead bullets in all that I shoot as the end to lead deposits in my bores is my goal. Then, an arm load of wood in the stove in the shooting shed and I shoot over a solid rest, out of a sliding window to my range of 50 yards, in 70 degree comfort (F not C!). Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Very intersting ,trying to learn everything i can about doubles ,i still have the Greener 475 .PWN375 sent me Shooting the British double im reading it and Cal articles .Huting with doubles has another flavour . www.huntinginargentina.com.ar FULL PROFESSIONAL MEMBER OF IPHA INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS ASOCIATION . DSC PROFESSIONAL MEMBER DRSS--SCI NRA IDPA IPSC-FAT -argentine shooting federation cred number2- | |||
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Goodness Cal: Sounds like you're a tough old bastard to handle that much coal and a hunk of lead big as a rock too. I'm trying to get sorted out with 90-95 gr 7828 & 250's! Hope your shoulder holds up to it. How soft or hard of lead do you use? George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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George: I was shooting Woodleigh bullets with smokeless powder. I do shoot wheelweights in the .600 and the weight is 900 grains. For hunting I use, as I do in all of my doubles, Woodleigh bullets. There are none finer. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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A .600NE on a warthog? You were very lucky, being so under gunned. Dave | |||
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You havent lived until you've killed a hog with a 900 gr bullet! Double Rifle Shooters Society | |||
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"Let me start off with two words: Made in America" | |||
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"think you used enough dynamite there Butch?" | |||
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...I guess 900grain + .600cal is pretty much the standard now on pigs. DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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How in the heck could that hog go anywhere after that let alone 60 feet? ! Wow!
Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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I was surprised as well. Actually thought I had missed him! Double Rifle Shooters Society | |||
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I think my dental work may have come loose shooting that much weight. But, it does sound like fun. Must have been a bit of a spot on the grass, aye? Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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