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.600 NE exit on warthog
25 November 2016, 08:32
cal pappas.600 NE exit on warthog
Gents:
This is my first time posting on the pig section.
Here is a photo of the exit hole from my .600 NE on a running warthog in Zim this past July. It's not just high velocity super magnums that leave a huge hole with meat destruction. Look at the damage done here from a 900-grain Woodleigh at a muzzle velocity of 1900 fps! I doubt the bullet mushroomed much, if at all.
The pig was surprised and took off running and I took a quick snap shot with the left barrel. I tried to follow the pig's shoulder but my bullet hit far to the rear. (My Wilkes is an original from 1914). Yes, the shot is too far back and a quick walk up and another shot dispatched the hog quickly. Distance was probably 40 feet.
Not only is the exit wound larger that I would ever expect but note the hide split to the rear of teh hole. I have recoverd bullets on larger game that mushroom to 1 1/2" but don't know how much expansion happened here. Interesting?
Cal
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25 November 2016, 20:52
Bill/OregonCal, good heavens, man. Just stuff him in a sausage casing and smoke. No grinding required!
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26 November 2016, 06:46
georgeldThat's a major mess.
Save the ivories?
Hell of a slug for a lil ol pig!
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26 November 2016, 14:13
Jan DumonImpressive. Did all your woodleighs hold up Cal ? I had one or two break up on me on the 600.
26 November 2016, 18:21
LHeym500To the shotplacment is everything crowd, The high priest of big bores has spoken, and his sacrifice has been consumed and found satisfactory to the hunting God. All small bore and shotplacment is everything pagens convert now the harvest is at hand.
In all seriousness, wow!
27 November 2016, 01:53
cal pappasquote:
Originally posted by Jan Dumon:
Impressive. Did all your woodleighs hold up Cal ? I had one or two break up on me on the 600.
Jan:
I've never had a problem with Woodleighs. Here are some examples from the last few buffalo and hippo. Solids lost 2-3 grains, softs 10-15 grains.
Cal
PS. Sorry, one moose, also.
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Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska
www.CalPappas.comwww.CalPappas.blogspot.com1994 Zimbabwe
1997 Zimbabwe
1998 Zimbabwe
1999 Zimbabwe
1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation
2000 Australia
2002 South Africa
2003 South Africa
2003 Zimbabwe
2005 South Africa
2005 Zimbabwe
2006 Tanzania
2006 Zimbabwe--vacation
2007 Zimbabwe--vacation
2008 Zimbabwe
2012 Australia
2013 South Africa
2013 Zimbabwe
2013 Australia
2016 Zimbabwe
2017 Zimbabwe
2018 South Africa
2018 Zimbabwe--vacation
2019 South Africa
2019 Botswana
2019 Zimbabwe vacation
2021 South Africa
2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later)
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27 November 2016, 09:57
Jan DumonVery nice Cal. I must've had a bad batch. I had 2 break up on Buffalo and two broke up shooting into a sand backstop. Actually Doctari shot the ones into the backstop. The others held up well. What powder and load did you use on them ?
27 November 2016, 14:43
cal pappasquote:
Originally posted by Jan Dumon:
Very nice Cal. I must've had a bad batch. I had 2 break up on Buffalo and two broke up shooting into a sand backstop. Actually Doctari shot the ones into the backstop. The others held up well. What powder and load did you use on them ?
Jan:
In my nitro cases from .450-400 and up I use IMR 4831 in all the cartridges. (I use IMR 3031 in the smaller cases). For the .600 I shoot 160 grains for softs and 155 grains for solids as my rifle was regulated for the 110-grain charge of cordite.
I know other powders will lessen recoil but 4831 is what I cut my teeth on and I have a bunch of it so I will use it up (but it will take many years). In addition to the two rifles mentioned, I also use it in my .450 no2 and .500.
In my bore rifles (4-8-10-12) I use only Blue Dot, with lead projectiles (ball and conical).
In my bpe rifles (450-500-577) I use only IMR 4198 with both lead and jacketed bullets.
I did a bit of shooting with powder coated bullets over the summer and showed no change in accuracy nor velocity so this fall (and early winter) I will be powder coating lead bullets in all that I shoot as the end to lead deposits in my bores is my goal. Then, an arm load of wood in the stove in the shooting shed and I shoot over a solid rest, out of a sliding window to my range of 50 yards, in 70 degree comfort (F not C!).
Cal
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Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska
www.CalPappas.comwww.CalPappas.blogspot.com1994 Zimbabwe
1997 Zimbabwe
1998 Zimbabwe
1999 Zimbabwe
1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation
2000 Australia
2002 South Africa
2003 South Africa
2003 Zimbabwe
2005 South Africa
2005 Zimbabwe
2006 Tanzania
2006 Zimbabwe--vacation
2007 Zimbabwe--vacation
2008 Zimbabwe
2012 Australia
2013 South Africa
2013 Zimbabwe
2013 Australia
2016 Zimbabwe
2017 Zimbabwe
2018 South Africa
2018 Zimbabwe--vacation
2019 South Africa
2019 Botswana
2019 Zimbabwe vacation
2021 South Africa
2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later)
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13 December 2016, 02:58
juanpozziVery intersting ,trying to learn everything i can about doubles ,i still have the Greener 475 .PWN375 sent me Shooting the British double im reading it and Cal articles .Huting with doubles has another flavour .
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13 December 2016, 10:04
georgeldGoodness Cal:
Sounds like you're a tough old bastard to handle that much coal and a hunk of lead big
as a rock too.
I'm trying to get sorted out with 90-95 gr 7828 & 250's!
Hope your shoulder holds up to it.
How soft or hard of lead do you use?
George
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18 December 2016, 07:02
cal pappasGeorge:
I was shooting Woodleigh bullets with smokeless powder. I do shoot wheelweights in the .600 and the weight is 900 grains. For hunting I use, as I do in all of my doubles, Woodleigh bullets. There are none finer.
Cal
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Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska
www.CalPappas.comwww.CalPappas.blogspot.com1994 Zimbabwe
1997 Zimbabwe
1998 Zimbabwe
1999 Zimbabwe
1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation
2000 Australia
2002 South Africa
2003 South Africa
2003 Zimbabwe
2005 South Africa
2005 Zimbabwe
2006 Tanzania
2006 Zimbabwe--vacation
2007 Zimbabwe--vacation
2008 Zimbabwe
2012 Australia
2013 South Africa
2013 Zimbabwe
2013 Australia
2016 Zimbabwe
2017 Zimbabwe
2018 South Africa
2018 Zimbabwe--vacation
2019 South Africa
2019 Botswana
2019 Zimbabwe vacation
2021 South Africa
2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later)
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19 January 2017, 01:40
MississippianSame bullet but from a bolt action 600OK. 900 gr woodliegh @2200fps. Hog was trotting at about 30 yards. The pig ran another 20 or so yards before crashing. Thats a 16 oz burger King cup in the hole.
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19 January 2017, 19:10
nopride2A .600NE on a warthog? You were very lucky, being so under gunned.
Dave
19 January 2017, 22:43
MississippianYou havent lived until you've killed a hog with a 900 gr bullet!

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20 January 2017, 01:13
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20 January 2017, 05:08
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21 January 2017, 00:22
jens poulsen...I guess 900grain + .600cal is pretty much the standard now on pigs.
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21 January 2017, 00:24
customboltHow in the heck could that hog go anywhere after that let alone 60 feet? ! Wow!
quote:
Originally posted by Mississippian:
Same bullet but from a bolt action 600OK. 900 gr woodliegh @2200fps. Hog was trotting at about 30 yards. The pig ran another 20 or so yards before crashing. Thats a 16 oz burger King cup in the hole.
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21 January 2017, 06:15
MississippianI was surprised as well. Actually thought I had missed him!
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23 January 2017, 04:08
customboltI think my dental work may have come loose shooting that much weight. But, it does sound like fun. Must have been a bit of a spot on the grass, aye?
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