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This might be old news to some but I've just seen the new Z6 line of scopes from Swarovski...

WOW... Extra eye relief in all magnifications and 6 x zoom factor... 1 - 6 x 24, 1.7 - 10 x 42 and the 2 - 12 x 50...

Can't wait to see through one in person... Course I imagine they won't be inexpensive but then too they are Swaro's...

Ken....


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They do look impressive. The 1.7-10 x 42 would about cover any hunting need.
 
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Hmmm...that's a pretty wide range of magnification. Those scopes will cover a huge range of hunting situations. I'd very much like to check one out in person. I'm sure they'll command a hefty price, but they're probably worth the $$. Are they out now, or soon to be?


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Yeah, that 1.7-10x42 just might be the perfect do-everything hunting scope - certainly for a European. I fancy the illuminated reticule version.

Any ideas on what prices might be?


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Haven't seen anything except what's on their website... Would be nice to know the price but being Swaro's they ain't gonna be cheap...

Ken....


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Swarovski Z6 Series (30")
Price Includes Express Shipping & Lens Covers!Description
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Price

Z6 1-6X 24MM (30MM Tube) Matte #4 Reticle SWA59112 $1449
Z6 1-6X 24MM (30MM Tube) Circle Dot Reticle SWA59116 $1449
Z6 1-6X 24MM (30MM Tube) "EE" #4 Reticle SWA59152 $1449
Z6 1-6X 24MM (30MM Tube) "EE" Circle Dot Reticle SWA59156 $1449
Z6 1.7-10X 42MM (30MM Tube) Plex Reticle SWA59211 $1599
Z6 1.7-10X 42MM (30MM Tube) #4A Reticle SWA59213 $1599
Z6 1.7-10X 42MM (30MM Tube) #7A Reticle SWA59214 $1599
Z6 1.7-10X 42MM (30MM Tube) TDS Plex Reticle SWA59215 $1669
Z6 2-12X 50MM (30MM Tube) Plex Reticle SWA59311 $1699
Z6 2-12X 50MM (30MM Tube) #4A Reticle SWA59313 $1699
Z6 2-12X 50MM (30MM Tube) #7A Reticle SWA59314 $1699
Z6 2-12X 50MM (30MM Tube) TDS Plex Reticle SWA59315 $1769



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I thought they might be a bit too proud of them... These prices seem right in line with their others...

Cool...

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The innovative construction of the reticle illumination unit results in a low design thus providing an unrestricted view over the rifle scope when in the firing position. With the Z6i models, the tried and tested High Grid technology is built stylishly into the eyepiece for the best possible reticle illumination, well protected by a sturdy forged aluminium housing and completely watertight. The new ergonomically designed operating elements plus two separate memory locations for day and night settings guarantee additional functionality. The new rifle scopes have a large choice of innovative reticles in the second image plain: this means that only the target is enlarged when changing the magnification and not the reticle itself which makes aiming considerably easier.

Z6 and Z6i Generation Available In Stores from 2007

Swarovski Optik is concealing four new models behind its gates. The Z6 1-6x24 –the world champion for field of view, the Z6 1-6x24 EE – the perfect companion for large game safaris, the Z6 1,7-10x42 – with a range of use suitable for forest, open fields and mountainous terrain, and the universal rifle scope Z6 2-12x50. The new products will be delivered to specialist dealers at the beginning of 2007. The illuminated Z6i-models will be available from April onward.




The best thing about them, is the 2nd image plain recticles! The only thing that turned me off of Euro optics is now finally being taken out!
 
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So if they are second image plain does that mean the TDS works the same at all power levels?
 
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So if they are second image plain does that mean the TDS works the same at all power levels?

That's a big mistake, none of the rangefinding type of reticles can function but in the one power where they are calibrated for! I will take a first focal plane reticle anytime instead of having my reticle changing constantly as I zoom up and down!
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bigbull, I'm sure Swarovski found a way around that.
 
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I re read Swarovski's TDS Manual that came with my scopes. It says that most all the old models have reticles on the second image focal plane. "The 3X12X50 on the other hand has a reticle in the first image plane and will work at any power selection when using the TDS Reticle"


So I guess the new ones will not work at any power level and only max.

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Does the TDS work at a "specific" power setting or the "highest" power setting?
 
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All the current models except the PH
3-12-50 must be on full power.
 
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I am a great fun of Swaro (I have 8 of them) but those must be the most ugly scopes I have ever seen. Would you stick one on a classic custom?

All I want is a 1" tubed 1.5-6x42
 
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1894, you are right on the illuminated version. Don't like that lumpy rear bell - but I might live with it for the functionality.

The non-ill version looks sweet - bit like a S&B Zenith.


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I phoned Swarovski and they say the TDS works on any power setting on the new scopes.
 
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Here is a picture of the non-illuminated 2-12x50 (the model which would interest me the most).



As Claret mentioned, Swaro seems to have gone to a new, and somewhat suprisingly looking system for their illuminated scopes. Here is the same scope as the one above, but with illuminated reticle (sorry, the picture I found was not quite the same size as the one above, the two scopes have identical dimensions, apart from the illumination swith and weight)...



The data on the field of view sounds fabulous, as does the 6x magnification factor (e.g. 1.7-10 or 2-12). They seem to be a tad longer and a tad heavier than the Zeiss Victory line (at least the models I compared).

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The 1.7-10 is like 2 scopes in one! You can put it on all your hunting rifles, not the varmint ones, and have the same perception in each one! Even the DGR. Now if I could win the lottery!
 
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Also no sprung eye cup..... Frowner I agree the non illuminated looks better but I still don't like the curve on the front of the ocular and the radius to the objective.
 
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1894, there is an upside to this: current models, which are excellent by any standard, will discounted when these new ones hit the market, especially second hand trade-ins.

Pick yourself up whatever you fancy.


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They are supposed to have greater eye relief. Does anyone know what it is?

Also, what is the "EE" model? Does that stand for Extended Eye relief?

Thanks.

Tim
 
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The technical data can be picked up from this page:

Z6 Series, Technical Data

General information from this page:

Z6 Series, General Information

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Thanks!

Great info.

Now, where can I buy one????

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Cabela's has them in a book I recieved today.


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