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Bushnell 3200 versus 4200.
04 January 2006, 23:02
SnowwolfeBushnell 3200 versus 4200.
I need to purchase 4-5 scopes for new rifles. I have used Leupolds, Nikons, and B&L's with equal success and durability. There is quite a difference between the Bushnell 3200 and 4200 line. Would I be happy with the 3200's or are the 4200's that much better and worth the price?
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
05 January 2006, 00:55
butchlocI might be in the minority but the only diff. I see in the two is whether yoou want a 4-1 turndown ratio or a 3-1. for the $$ I'm perfectly happy with 3-1
05 January 2006, 01:15
Jon JackoviakAnother difference that Bushnell states in there catalog is that the Elite 3200 is "Multi-coated" where the Elite 4200 is "Fully Multi-coated" which is going to give you better light transmission and contrast.
05 January 2006, 01:30
SnowwolfeI have owned numerous B&L 1.5 x 6 and 2 x 8's over the years and have never been disappointed. How do these stack up against the new 3200's?
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
12 January 2006, 07:35
AnotherAZWriterI have used several Elite scopes. I have noticed that it seem that the same scope tube is used for both models (assuming similar power ranges). This means that with a 3200 you are carrying a scope that is longer than it needs to be.
All in all, Elites are good scopes. I took one to Tanzania on a hunt last Sep and had no problems.
12 January 2006, 07:52
tnekkcc10 years ago I got a B&L 4x12x40 AO, which is the same as the now Bushnell 3200.
It sells for $250 discounted.
For that money, I can get a Leupold 3x9x40.
No more Bushnells for me.
12 January 2006, 08:11
browningguyWell the Elite 3200 3-9x40 is $179 for the standard reticle, and under $200 for the firefly. You can get a Leupold VX1 for around $200, but the VXII seems to be closer to $300.
I've got one 3200 in 3-9 and a Leupold VX1, no more Leupolds for me.
Personally I like the Bushnell better than the VX1. Actually I really like the Burris FFII's now, I've got a couple of them with the Mildot and with a 165 gr. load in the '06 it's spot on out to 300 yards (farthest I've shot it).
Browningguy
Houston, TX
We Band of 45-70ers
12 January 2006, 08:29
onefunzr2I was told that my old Bausch & Lomb Balvar would now be the model 4200. NRA Dope Bag review could not say enough good things about them. Mine is 6x24power.
12 January 2006, 08:57
Alberta Canuckquote:
Originally posted by onefunzr2:
I was told that my old Bausch & Lomb Balvar would now be the model 4200. NRA Dope Bag review could not say enough good things about them. Mine is 6x24power.
Don't know about the last of the line of B&Ls, but for most of their years at least, they had their reticules etched on one of the internal lenses. You don't ever get broken reticules that way. Also, their glass was absolutely one of the best.
Personally, I'd take an American-made older B&L scope any day of the week....for my uses.
My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still.
14 January 2006, 21:04
HammerHave never had problems or complaints with either the B&L 3200 or 4200.
Hammer
16 January 2006, 07:49
Jay JohnsonA few years ago I decided to try a 4200. I got the 2.5 X 10 I'm using it on a small .243 carry rifle a Remington Mohawk it works great and is bright. I'd buy another one with out any hesitation.
20 January 2006, 19:14
Danny BoyI have five 3200s and have been very happy with them. Before I bought the first one I made a indepth comparison between 3200, 4200 and VX-II.
According to my ability to see, there is vrey little difference, if any, between the 3200 and VX-II. VX-II has a longer eye relief but it costs $200 more each. The 4200 is better quality glass but a bit heavier and longer. I settled on the 3200 and saved a few bucks. You can't go wrong with either one of it.
Danny Boy
20 January 2006, 19:43
MajorCaliberThe 3200 is better than a Leupold, but the Simmons Whitetail Expedition is better than both!
20 January 2006, 23:45
SempreElkquote:
The 3200 is better than a Leupold, but the Simmons Whitetail Expedition is better than both!
Working on my ISIS strategy....FORE
21 January 2006, 03:20
MajorCaliberquote:
Originally posted by SempreElk:
quote:
The 3200 is better than a Leupold, but the Simmons Whitetail Expedition is better than both!
Do you have all three? I didn't think so! I have had several of each, and the Leupold is the bottom of the three!
21 January 2006, 06:53
groundhog devastationI've had all three plus a couple others......PENTAX LIGHTSEEKERS and NIKONS!!!!!! LEUPOLD is living on their name!!! And the fact that they give EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE........they may need to exercise this option more than others!!! You'd be hard pressed to find a more optically clear to the edges of the veiwing field, definition, and light transmission abililty than the NIKONS!!! The PENTAXS....thats a given on the light seeking!!......aptly named!!! Clarity and Definition.......NIKON!! The only Leupold I own now is a 3-9x32(or 33) compact on the wife's 22!! There's better options out there than the "BIG L"!!! Nikon seems to be the one rising to the top!!! Bushnell 3200-4200's are superior to the low end Leupolds!!! Simmons Aetecs were always an unsung hero of the hunting man!!! GHD
Groundhog Devastation(GHD)
21 January 2006, 06:55
akplsI recently bought a 7x57 that came with a B&L 3000 Elite 3x9 on it. To be honest I was a bit disappointed with the 3000. I was considering swapping it out with a Nikon Monarch 4x and did a few comparisons. The B&L did fine until I looked at a target through the lights on my back porch. The Monarch looked right on through, but I could see nothing through the B&L because of the glare on the lens. The Nikon went on the 7x57 and the B&L went to my .22.
22 January 2006, 16:55
SempreElkquote:
Do you have all three? I didn't think so! I have had several of each, and the Leupold is the bottom of the three
Only Simmons I owned was an 8 point POS..Only the Aetec is a decent scope and better then the 3200 or the Leupold, have not looked at the new Simmons line and being their made in China very little chance of that ever happening.
Now getting back to the original post the 4200 is optically a great scope just a long heavy oversized scope features I don't care for.
Working on my ISIS strategy....FORE
22 January 2006, 17:33
MajorCaliberquote:
Only Simmons I owned was an 8 point POS
I agree on that!
The Nikon's and Pentax are a cut above Leupold also!
22 January 2006, 18:13
D HumbargerI wish that Canon would start making rifle scopes.
Doug Humbarger
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23 January 2006, 17:48
MajorCaliberquote:
Originally posted by D Humbarger:
I wish that Canon would start making rifle scopes.
You already have Nikon, and Pentax!
09 February 2006, 18:50
Johnny foreignerI like the Nikon I just purchased 6.5-20 Monach,but the damn tube is too short for me to get the correct eye relief sorted. I'm looking at a 4200 or Black Diamond to replace.
DW