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Im just doing a comparison with stats i was given about the South African hunting market (local hunters ) and i want to see how it matches up with the international market

Question:
What is your no1 reason for hunting

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To get into the record books
to decorate your house with trophies
The experience and records
the experience alone
a holiday
other

Question:
What is your age

Choices:
20 - 30
31 - 40
41 - 50
51- 60
61- 70
70 +

Question:
How do you measure your safari what is the most important factor

Choices:
price
service
experience
methods used during the hunt
other

 


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Posts: 914 | Location: Burgersfort the big Kudu mekka of South Africa | Registered: 27 April 2007Reply With Quote
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Would it be possible to display the results by age grouping?? Kudude
 
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For no reason other than..."For love of the game."
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I voted "other" on 2 questions. I want the experience, but I also want to decorate the house, and a chance to get away.

Price and experience and service are all important to me in choosing a safari.


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The age breakdown sort of surprises me. I figured there would have been more guys in their 50s than 40s.

I did my hunt purely for the experience. Same with going to Alaska. There are so many opportunities in life and if you keep passing them by they eventually quit coming by. I have no desire to die rich by pinching pennies.
 
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The ages run a bell curve. Kind of what you'd expect in any sample of this size. What would be more interesting is how our taste change with age as reflected in our responses. Kudude

PS: I was surprised there are so few of us old f**ts in the game!
 
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cable68: Right on. That's why I voted "other" as well.
 
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What about for the pure challenge? There are very few ways to truly measure yourself as a man in this society.

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When the race is run.....and all is Done....there is only 2 things that are important. 1. Your relationship with God. 2. Your relationship with those you love and those who love you. Everything else is just dead stuff on the walls that will probably end up in a garage sale someday. Don't get me wrong...I love the dead stuff on the walls...and my family will probably fuss over who gets what,
BUT....I hunt for reason #2 above. Hunting with my wife, children, and GRAND CHILDREN, is the frame work for building relationships like nothing else I have ever found. The bond formed around a mopane fire in the dark night of Africa seals a relationship better than the mormons can!!! (NO offense intended!)
 
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Anymore I hunt because of the journey, not the destination.


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Why do I hunt? Why do I hunt Africa? I have hunted since I was 12years old....legal age to hunt in my home state of Pennsylvania. I have never had anything entered in Pope & Young or Boone & Crockett. I seem to go in spurts as to which type of hunting I am fanatical about at the moment. I spent my twenties shooting whitetails with a bow, participating in 3D archery tournaments, and shooting varmints at long range. In my thirties I switched gears to waterfowl. I prostaff, guide and call competitively now and still manage to bag my 3 deer and turkey each season.
The question of why do I hunt may not be so clear....it is clear that isn’t records or trophies for the wall.
My father hunted. His father hunted. My Uncle hunted. I have two brothers and two cousins all five boys born between the Cuban Missile Crisis and Watergate all raised spending days together in the field. I honed my skills with my BB gun and 25 lb Bear bow I got for my 5th birthday. My brothers and I stalked and shot whatever small birds or furred creatures we could find. When I was close enough in age to start tagging along with my brother and father I couldn’t wait to get going. Early hunts found both of us wearing hand me down gear trying to be useful in Pennsylvania deer camp. My days spent trying to move the way he moved....quiet for the giant of a man he was and more patient than any 10 year old has ever wanted slip through the woods. All the boys in my family experienced the tradition the same way. We learned to shoot together, learned to scout together learned to sit still in the cold watching a deer trail together. Hunting for a youngster was about learning to be safe, learning the way of the outdoors and enjoying the camaraderie of shared days outdoors.
My grandfather had to stop hunting because of his health when I was young, my uncle has had to give it up as well in the last five years because Lou Gehrigs disease has slowed him. My father lost his battle to cancer when I was only 20 years old. He was 3 years older than I am now.
Another generation is on the way. My older brother has two boys, my younger brother has two boys and I have three boys....all within 10 years of age of one another. Our father may not have met these young hunters, but I suppose he knew they were they were on the way. When my nephews bagged their first deer and turkeys this year I believe my father was up there somewhere beaming with pride. When my 5 year old son braved single digit temperatures in the blind with me last Feb to witness a waterfowl spectacular it dawned on me. I realized then how my dad must have felt all those years ago, teaching us to love the outdoors and teaching us to be hunters.

I could say I hunt because I love the outdoors. I could say I hunt because of simple evolution. I have eyes on the front of my head like a predator and not the side of my head like prey. Maybe I hunt because when the wind is in my face and the adrenaline rises in my body I feel like he is with me again. When I was 10 years old and stretching my stride behind him to step in his footsteps so I didn't make a sound the symbolism wouldn't have occurred to a child. It occurs to me now.
I hunt because I am a hunter.
 
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Why do I hunt? Why do I hunt Africa? I have hunted since I was 12years old....legal age to hunt in my home state of Pennsylvania. I have never had anything entered in Pope & Young or Boone & Crockett. I seem to go in spurts as to which type of hunting I am fanatical about at the moment. I spent my twenties shooting whitetails with a bow, participating in 3D archery tournaments, and shooting varmints at long range. In my thirties I switched gears to waterfowl. I prostaff, guide and call competitively now and still manage to bag my 3 deer and turkey each season.
The question of why do I hunt may not be so clear....it is clear that isn’t records or trophies for the wall.
My father hunted. His father hunted. My Uncle hunted. I have two brothers and two cousins all five boys born between the Cuban Missile Crisis and Watergate all raised spending days together in the field. I honed my skills with my BB gun and 25 lb Bear bow I got for my 5th birthday. My brothers and I stalked and shot whatever small birds or furred creatures we could find. When I was close enough in age to start tagging along with my brother and father I couldn’t wait to get going. Early hunts found both of us wearing hand me down gear trying to be useful in Pennsylvania deer camp. My days spent trying to move the way he moved....quiet for the giant of a man he was and more patient than any 10 year old has ever wanted slip through the woods. All the boys in my family experienced the tradition the same way. We learned to shoot together, learned to scout together learned to sit still in the cold watching a deer trail together. Hunting for a youngster was about learning to be safe, learning the way of the outdoors and enjoying the camaraderie of shared days outdoors.
My grandfather had to stop hunting because of his health when I was young, my uncle has had to give it up as well in the last five years because Lou Gehrigs disease has slowed him. My father lost his battle to cancer when I was only 20 years old. He was 3 years older than I am now.
Another generation is on the way. My older brother has two boys, my younger brother has two boys and I have three boys....all within 10 years of age of one another. Our father may not have met these young hunters, but I suppose he knew they were they were on the way. When my nephews bagged their first deer and turkeys this year I believe my father was up there somewhere beaming with pride. When my 5 year old son braved single digit temperatures in the blind with me last Feb to witness a waterfowl spectacular it dawned on me. I realized then how my dad must have felt all those years ago, teaching us to love the outdoors and teaching us to be hunters.

I could say I hunt because I love the outdoors. I could say I hunt because of simple evolution. I have eyes on the front of my head like a predator and not the side of my head like prey. Maybe I hunt because when the wind is in my face and the adrenaline rises in my body I feel like he is with me again. When I was 10 years old and stretching my stride behind him to step in his footsteps so I didn't make a sound the symbolism wouldn't have occurred to a child. It occurs to me now.
I hunt because I am a hunter.


you hit it on head there is no better stress relief than hunting its funny how one day in the bush can clear your head even if you dont shoot anything


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Would it be possible to display the results by age grouping?? Kudude

do you want the RSA figures ?


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Posts: 914 | Location: Burgersfort the big Kudu mekka of South Africa | Registered: 27 April 2007Reply With Quote
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Ok, here I am, by my opinion the questions in this kind of poll tend to simplify the answers that are often a summa of the various reasons selected.

The only question that can be answered with a simply answer is the one about the age.

But for the first and the third question it is not all black or white, but a lot of tones of colours.


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It's not complicated! I hunt because just like most top of the food chain animals, it is because MAN is a hunter/gather animal, and evryone on the face of this earth hunts, it is only society has changed the rules. Now you buy food, clothing, and shelter that someone else has built, or other wise produced, or meat raised, and killed! Folks it's still hunting, but when we take up the bow, rifle or fish hook, we simply cut all the middle men, and do it ourselves, as it was meant to be for our species! In plian English, I hunt because I must, and I can, no other reason! Roll Eyes

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I voted "other" on 2 questions. I want the experience, but I also want to decorate the house, and a chance to get away.

Price and experience and service are all important to me in choosing a safari.

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Although not in the oldest two groups yet, my reasons have changed over time. I measure a hunt more on the fun I've had than anything else. When talking to outfitters, my hunting partner and I explain that we want fun. We are not in a race, nor egocentric. Give us fun.


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Well put Bill. Ditto for me. Cool
 
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I am descended from multiple generations of hunters. I hunt because love for hunting is in my DNA.
 
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Pursuit and failure. Pursuit and success. Pursuit and happiness. God, I wish I could live all of this every single day of the rest of my retched life!
 
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Pursuit and failure. Pursuit and success. Pursuit and happiness. God, I wish I could live all of these every single day of the rest of my retched life!
 
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How many posts here and I am the first to say it?

I can't swing a golf club, baseball bat, tennis racket. I can't kick a football, (American or the rest of the world's,). I can't drive or run fast. Throw a ball ten feet in the air to get it in a hoop? Yeah right! I'm not much of a "Ladies Man," so spending all my money and time in the night clubs is out.

Guess I'll go hunting!
 
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Scott,

You are more disabled than even I thought you were. Unfortunately I found out long ago that I was also in the same boat and not particularly enamored with other SPORTS. I did like football but at 5'10' and 130 lb. it was not really my game. Can you say ouch?

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I hunted my first "real" animal (a Duiker) when I was 12 and from that day it was my dream to one day become a Professional Hunter... But destiny had something else in mind for me and I ended up in Banking... So up to the age of 30 the only hunting I managed to do was over weekends and during holidays... As for the reasons why I hunted... I just had to, it was a way of escaping from the city, keep my sanity and it was of course nice to have a supply of venison in the freezer...

I no longer earn a nice fat paycheck at month-end to fund my hunting habits... and I had to give up the Mercedes parked in front of my nice house next to the golf course when I opted to make a career out of hunting... but I exchanged that for something MUCH better...

Now I feel pretty sane most of the time, I hunt because I "have to", I'm enjoying every minute of it... and there's always a supply of venison in the freezer...


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I don´t know but I have to do it no matter whatsoever


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375,

If you broke the responses down by age grouping, what would the answers to the questions look like?
I asked because I suspect the older group is more interested in the experience.

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You are more disabled than even I thought you were. Unfortunately I found out long ago that I was also in the same boat and not particularly enamored with other SPORTS. I did like football but at 5'10' and 130 lb. it was not really my game. Can you say ouch?

Mark


I have pitched a no-hitters, hit home runs and returned kickoffs for touchdowns and none are close to the adrenaline rush of taking a big buck.....so Mark you are at least one up me because I can't imagine what it is like to stare down that ele in your signature below....I am sure I'd trade ya though. Playing sports is fun but hunting is a way of life...those memories stick with me much more.
 
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I can relate to alot of whats been said. Being in the backcountry, the experiences pitting yourself against nature and the game your hunting,being by myself or with family or friends, it's all great. And I'm not ashamed to admit theres excitement in the killing part too. I love everything about hunting.

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Mark I think thats why we get on so well, we recognized the similarity in each others disability.
 
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Who was the guy 70 and over? wave


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. . . because it is fun and I enjoy it. Not a lot more complicated than that.


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"Who was the guy 70 and over? "

Me.
 
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. . . because it is fun and I enjoy it. Not a lot more complicated than that.


I could use more words to say it but ditto will suffice.


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Very interesting results 84% hunt for the experience so i forcast a drop in measuring tape sales lol

22% between 31 and 40 years
30% in the 41-50 group
25% in the 51 -60 group

in 83% of the votes the experience is the determining factor in the success of the safari.

Thanks for everybodies contribution. the age groups compair very well with the south african figures.

in SA 96% of hunter is between 30 and 50 and male as well as afrikaans speaking


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I played Tennis until my knees stopped me, I could still walk fine therefore hunting became number one, with shooting a very close second. Now I think the reloading and shooting takes many more hours than the hunting, but together it all make me tick. I have six grandsons a grandaughter and a great grandson, that hopefully will follow. I was the youngest of five brothers and the only one that followed a die hard hunting father, go figure. Good shooting.


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