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Is there are rule or Rule of Thumb on the big Five . Is a Lioness and a Darted Rino concidered part of the Big Five. | ||
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Darted Rhino today is considered a Green hunt and can be accepted under those guidelines (SCI). The Lioness is a Lion per se but wouldn't do much if you wanted to score the skull. If you want some real excitement in your life, try darting a mature Lion....just kidding. LDK Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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yeah - i think you'd have to taser the lioness | |||
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I ask this Question to see diffrent views. I think the big 5 should be Male lion and if so Rino should be hunted when Legal. I have a friend who is hunting the big 5 with a Crossbow and He is going to Dart a Rino . He will use very low power limbs on the crossbow. The Lion he has Taken a Lioness already - I think # 1 or 2 in the world w/Crossbow.I alway tought that the lion had to be Male. | |||
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David: I laughed out loud upon reading your post. (I always have wondered {despite all the "documentaries" I have watched about how animals sink down after being "darted"} just how close one must get to put the dart in -and how long it takes to work -if Leo gets a look at just who did this to him. I have a vision of Leo getting really annoyed at close quarters.  | |||
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I know a Namibian game warden who has done this a number of times in Etosha. My understanding from him is that the distance must be inside 25 meters, preferably a bit closer. In case things get dicey, game rangers armed with automatic rifles are always on hand.  Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Game rangers with auto weapons??? Some of the guys I've seen, I'd almost rather have the lion get me than having them spraying a bit of rock-and-roll with those beat up AK's and FN's! I can hear it now when the lion got ahold of the darter in the incomparable great words of Jerry Clower: "...just shoot up here amongst us, one of us needs some relief!" JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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Any one that takes a lion with more than a short bow with poision arrows is just a wimp! Get real and be a MAN! | |||
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Only SCI accepts green darted rhino or lioness as making up the big five. Certainly not Roland Ward. 465H&H | |||
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I'm sure all of us would love to be able to shoot a male lion and shoot (with a rifle, not a dart) a rhino. I think a large majority don't have the necessary funds to spend $50,000 to shoot a lion, or the $100,000 to kill a rhino. We could even extend that to include a trophy bull elephant. If someone were to dart a rhino, shoot a lioness, and shoot a cow or PAC elephant it makes it more economical (although not much) for the average Joe to get the big five. The hunting experience will be the same. A lioness, darted rhino, and PAC/Cow elephant is just as capable of killing you as their "trophy" counterparts. I'm not worried about record books, but I sure as hell would prefer to shoot a lioness and cross ____________________________ If you died tomorrow, what would you have done today ... 2018 Zimbabwe - Tuskless w/ Nengasha Safaris 2011 Mozambique - Buffalo w/ Mashambanzou Safaris | |||
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my thoughts, I have take 2 ele. 3 buff 2 leopard and one lion. I darted a rhino. Shooting a rhino would have been only 10% as tough as the dart hunt. I don't care about the record books, in fact I am quite sure I am not in it. I did want to get my big 5 and if you start spiting hairs on male or female lion, how do you feel about counting SA lions. Mine was from Tan. How many people count their canned lion in their big 5? NRA LIFE MEMBER DU DIAMOND SPONSOR IN PERPETUITY DALLAS SAFARI CLUB LIFE MEMBER SCI FOUNDATION MEMBER | |||
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Great point. And when it comes down to it, who really cares other than the hunter himself? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Jeff and Jason: Exactly! Well put!  | |||
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Great point Jeff. My father was diagnosed with the worst possible type of brain tumor in summer of 2007. He needed the elle and rhino to finish out the 5. He wasnt supposed to make it that long, but we did a "victory tour" of ZA in June of 2008. In spite of his condition, he could still shoot lights out and took 3 springbok at anywhere from 150 to 200 yrs with no problem. He was, however, having a tough time with his balance and walking any distance. It took everything he had left and several attempts to close the deal on the rhino. Not easy and I can assure you it "counted" for Big 5 purposes to all of us. | |||
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Pennsyltucky, good on your Dad. Those with the Holier than thou can just stick it. One must only be happy with their self and the rest is Just a matter of Oponion and other opinions just don't matter. Jeff spoken like one that has done a green hunt, it took me 6 hard stalks to dart my Rino and I could have shot him numnerous times from a distance greater than darting distance. | |||
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