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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
http://sportingclassicsdaily.c...-target-jimmy-johns/

I eat there cause I like the subs.

I think its stupid for any public profile company (public or private) and especially anything in consumer discretionary CEOs to post pictures with dead Elephants, cats or rhinos.

Same reason why no sane gun industry executive should donate to Democratic party - its bad for the business from a marketing point of view.

Mike

I agree with you Mike.

For whatever it is worth, the camera guy I use filmed those hunts. It was quite exciting by his account. All totally above board as I recall the conversation.

I dont find it stupid at all and all us hunters would be better off if more like him would show they are proud to be hunters.

We give a few anti's way to much power because we are scared of what they may do as then just run us over on all the social site and issues. He sells products with meat in them you think all those bunny hugging veg eating people who would not eat there anyway will cost him anything. Hell no just sad that more of us hunter dont go out of our way to support the guys like him who are not scared to show they enjoy hunting.

We keep losing the war because we are so worried about hurting people feeling. They keep winning the no hunting public because that is the side they keep hearing the must from so of course there side looks better when there the only ones talking. sometimes silence is not always the best answer to our problems as hunters

Hiding that we are hunters is not right.Best be proud and stand up for what we believe in.

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Originally posted by bcap:
I dont find it stupid at all and all us hunters would be better off if more like him would show they are proud to be hunters.

We give a few anti's way to much power because we are scared of what they may do as then just run us over on all the social site and issues. He sells products with meat in them you think all those bunny hugging veg eating people who would not eat there anyway will cost him anything. Hell no just sad that more of us hunter dont go out of our way to support the guys like him who are not scared to show they enjoy hunting.

We keep losing the war because we are so worried about hurting people feeling. They keep winning the no hunting public because that is the side they keep hearing the must from so of course there side looks better when there the only ones talking. sometimes silence is not always the best answer to our problems as hunters

Last time I checked one needs to get capital/money from other sources to engage in African hunting safaris/vacations.

If ones income source, business income, business partners, lp or shareholder income is impacted by a public hunting profile one needs to make a serious choice - vacation over lively hood.

Big 4 hunting - elephant, rhinos and cats - will not be accepted by the public as a socially okay activity. It is legal and a very strong case can be made it is needed for conservation but it being a socially acceptable activity is over.

Engage it in if your checkbook allows and one desires it. Just keep a low profile (no ar reports, no face book, no twitter) if you business faces the general consuming global public.

Mike

I don't think he should be smiling and giving a thumbs up like that.It shows a lack of respect for taking such an animal.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I don't think he should be smiling and giving a thumbs up like that.It shows a lack of respect for taking such an animal.

I think smiling is OK. The thumbs up I 100% agree George.

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by bcap:
I dont find it stupid at all and all us hunters would be better off if more like him would show they are proud to be hunters.

We give a few anti's way to much power because we are scared of what they may do as then just run us over on all the social site and issues. He sells products with meat in them you think all those bunny hugging veg eating people who would not eat there anyway will cost him anything. Hell no just sad that more of us hunter dont go out of our way to support the guys like him who are not scared to show they enjoy hunting.

We keep losing the war because we are so worried about hurting people feeling. They keep winning the no hunting public because that is the side they keep hearing the must from so of course there side looks better when there the only ones talking. sometimes silence is not always the best answer to our problems as hunters

Last time I checked one needs to get capital/money from other sources to engage in African hunting safaris/vacations.

If ones income source, business income, business partners, lp or shareholder income is impacted by a public hunting profile one needs to make a serious choice - vacation over lively hood.

Big 4 hunting - elephant, rhinos and cats - will not be accepted by the public as a socially okay activity. It is legal and a very strong case can be made it is needed for conservation but it being a socially acceptable activity is over.

Engage it in if your checkbook allows and one desires it. Just keep a low profile (no ar reports, no face book, no twitter) if you business faces the general consuming global public.

Mike

I agree and he made his choice to be proud that he hunts. I just see it as kind of bad when other hunters think this is bad. we should support it and stop being ashamed of what we do period. You dont get anywhere by looking the other way and hope all will be ok if we keep quiet.

Plenty of famous people hunt but dont speak up. The way to make people maybe try our sport or at least understand it is to have all who do it talk about it is to show everyone who does. I would bet there is more people who hunt then anti hunter by far. They keep turning people who did not care either way till they hear all the bad stuff. Never hearing the good hunters do.

You cant win the war but just hoping they will go away and at this point as they keep adding up the wins it is more important then ever to speak up.

I agree the thumbs up may look bad but when someone is happy it is what some do. You dont think the antis were all thumbs up when the lion ban started.

Damn! What are we coming to, some hunters are criticizing another hunter because he had a good hunt and gave a thumbs up?

If we're that politically correct, we've lost the battle anyway.

Personally I think this criticism is way overboard, and the people who agree with it should be ashamed of themselves, or quit hunting, or both.

"smiling is OK but thumbs up aren't..." said on a hunting and shooting site tells you all you need to know.
Post at own Peril is the rule of the day for people who depend on public support of themselves or their business.

I have not seen people pose this way in any of the old time Africa trophy pics.IMO it is not a classy gesture next to a shot elephant.What is next the mooner?

This will be another thread that just shows why we are losing the battle. Maybe he should of did the thumbs up with a sign saying I have just done more for wildlife then any anti hunter ever will. Then the thumbs up maybe ok. Any other time it would be looked at as a person doing a good job at what he was doing but not here. I would not do it but sure can not blame the happy hunter if it is what he decide because he was happy and just happened to enjoy himself doing what he loves.

It looks like Mr Lupton has a number of his own business ventures...wonder if he would enjoy being boycotted

I don't have a problem with his pic in the least. I won't apologize for being who I am, EVER!

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Originally posted by Kebco:
It looks like Mr Lupton has a number of his own business ventures...wonder if he would enjoy being boycotted

yup. Hitting them the same way is what it will take.

Reminds me of the Boston (or Baltimore mayor, I forgot which one) that railed against Chik-Fil-A for some non-existent problem and wanted to keep them out of their town only to rally millions to the restaurant to buy their food. Me thinks thou protest too much.

Awwwhhhhh .... a nice belly full of Jimmy John's. #16 the Lulu minus tomato but add cheese please.

I got a vito today but it was totally unrelated to the whole hunting thing - its just a good meal for $5.

I don't see a lot of people standing in line to buy a sub cause he is pro African hunting.

If you are rich and want to support a divisive political and social issue - African hunting, gun control, abortion ect do it via money from your business. Not sticking you face on picture that hurts your business and the means to fund an agenda. How much money has Mark Zuckerberg give planned parenthood and no one stops using facebook.

I don't think he ever wanted these pictures release but they have a way of leaking out by error or bad judgement on part of other people.

Public figure best path is don't have a big 5 hunting profile.

Mike

What a relief that smiling is OK in hunting photos...

Good for him
I for one applaud him
And thumbs up is bad? Common guys, thumbs up to me is good times in any endeavor in your favorite hobby be it hunting or collecting pine cones for your next winter meal

I've never been to a Jimmy John's but I will now.
I will gladly support a business owned by a fellow hunter.

He looks really happy in the pic and if the thumbs up is part of his personality in expressing his happiness, who are we to judge.

I will not bash any sportsman in the press so long as what they are doing is legal.

Those on this forum that believe they are on the moral high ground all the time might consider donating their time to constructive activities, such as making their positions known to politicians or volunteering their time to sportsman's rights groups.

Bitching about another man's pic with his thumbs up helps nothing.

The photo is from 2010 which was before some of us had decided to cower before political correctness and try to please people that cannot be pleased. I think the best advice for photos is don't post them as public material. Someone will always be offended. I know where I will be eating lunch tomorrow.

No Apologies Here!

Right after dropping a Blesbuck @ 200 yards less than 30 minutes after dropping an Impala @ 175 yards; First 2 African kills!

The aforementioned Impala.

375 H&H the medicine for African game!


An ancient Kudu bull @ 270 yards across a canyon. Darn right I am happy.

Yes the Jimmy John Safari was a while back. He paid like 13.5 million to shoot that Black Rhino. It was all pre-approved by the US for import as well. It was either DSC, SCI or some organization that used it as a fund raiser to protect Black Rhinos. Sacrifice one to protect many. The anti's don't give a dime, much less 13.5 million!

It looks like Jona Lupton is the SCUMBAG to me?