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I just got word that a client died at a B&B in Harare. He had fever and headaches for 5 days. He went back to Harare in preparation for flying home. Apparently did not want to see a Zim doctor. He died the next morning. They THINK he had some kind of seizure. Very sad. I know the name and city he is from. I will keep that quiet for the time being. This comes right after a couple of events locally. A friend of mine for over 25 years died of a heart attack Tuesday. He had all the classic warning signs yet choose to ignore them. The hell of it was that he was doing work at my girlfriend's house. She is a surgeon. Had he even mentioned these symptoms to her, she would have taken him straight to the hospital. About 6 weeks ago, I was in the gym. My kids called telling me their mom was sick. To make a long story short, she had an aneurism. She had about 7 hours of emergency brain surgery. Now we learn that her head had been numb for a week and she did nothing. She could easily be dead. Pay attention to what your body is telling you. Sometimes it is giving you serious warning signs.  | ||
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Thank you Larry. We often think that it is a bother on those who love us (or depend upon us at work) to seek medical attention. Well, we don't help much any more if we are dead or permanently incapacitated, I reckon. Your post has encouraged me to get a check on a nagging problem that is probably nothing. Sandy will thank you when I tell her about your encouragement. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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Great advice! We generally think 'its nothing' and wait for a symptom to go away. Much better to be checked and alive. | |||
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Larry, good advice is often disregarded, and in many cases is a final mistake! ......................................................................  D.O.A...  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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Sometimes ignorance is the culprit. You see signs of sorts but just plain don't know what to make of it. THAT'S when to go ahead and push the ER button. Worst that can happen is, they do a scan and nothing turns up (once after a brain scan they said they couldn't find anything - and everybody gets a good laugh). Btw, I don't know about you but locally pneumonia is a problem. Regardless of age. Can come on with lightning speed. One day, fine, two days later you're in the ICU and maybe or maybe not will make it. Oh, there's one illness that really is NOT subtle. You KNOW to hit the ER with it - kidney stones (guess how I know)... | |||
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A wee bit difficult trying to read this through a flu induced haze of watery eyes, a post nasal drip [ try a leaking fire hydrant.] A hack that will put the tribesmen, who like to smoke "Best Blend" rolled up in old newspaper, right out of the competition. The aches and pains, I had no idea that I could get shin splints lying in bed, with the occassional chat at the great white telephone. Then for a change, gunnite the same piece of essential equipment. Larry, thanks for heads-up, although at this stage my old carcass is sending many signals. | |||
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Early Warning Signs, Pain Tolerance, Generally Great Health, and HARD HEADED I am currently recovering from a rough bout with viral meningitis. The virus put me down hard for three weeks. The early warning signs… headaches combined with stiff neck. I thought I had tweaked my neck working out. For whatever reason, I have a high tolerance to pain and shrug most things off as part of the game of life. Over the years I have generally been in great health so a little stiff neck, a headache or two seemed like it was nothing to worry about. The bottom line here is that we all should pay more attention to the little things that are warnings signs that something is not right with the body. I know, I know, we are all tough guys/gals and figure we can deal with whatever is making us uncomfortable at the time because this is what we've done most of our lives (playing injured). The truth is, we are all probably a little hard headed and this in the end can be deadly. Safari James USMC DRSS | |||
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Many of us here are past our immortal stage of life and have seen many tragedies. Count your blessings. Mike | |||
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Larry: Your announcement comes as a coincidence and in support to what happened to a very close friend with whom I spent a couple of hours chatting about guns, and cars last Saturday. On the Sunday evening I was told he had flown southward to have a few errant kidney stones removed, as advised by his quack. Alas, on Wednesday he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer! So even if you go for a check up, a second opinion does no harm as your personal physician who has treated you for many years can sometimes make a fatal error. P.S... He's only in his early fifties, hardly qualifies as battered or worn out, nor is he out of shape either. Just goes to show that Big C is no chooser! One other colourful individual, whom quite a few AR members know, was very recently diagnosed with prostate cancer chomping the bit and on full gallop at turn 4 - which leaves one asking themselves about the previous 3 hurdles. Life is too short as it is to take such risks! | |||
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Married men live longer. Here's an example of why. Three months ago my wife stated that she thought my primary care doc was not sufficiently assertive, so she found me a new one. At the exam, he asked if I had any vision problems. I mentioned blurred vision in my right eye once or twice a month. Bam! In for a scan. Diagnosis: 90% blocked carotid artery, the one in your neck. Also discovered: Plaque build-up in the coronary artery. Those little vision episodes were little strokes as bits of plaque sloughed off. The result could easily have been a full stroke, the kind that leaves you drooling in a wheel chair for the rest of your life! Today I have a stent and a little scar on my neck. Time to man-up guys and take responsibility. Guess I'll keep the wife for a few more years. Brice | |||
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No .... kidding! My primary care guy felt the prostate and said it "felt smooth and fine". Three days later his nurse called with the PSA results and said I should see a urologist. I'll never forget. It was at night. I'd just come home from a successful deer hunt. My wife said there was a message for me, but I could read in her face something was amiss. You can do that after so many years. So I did see the urologist who felt the prostate and said, "there's a small nodule" and set up a biopsy. You can guess the rest. But for the PSA you'd be SOL in those circumstances... | |||
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Had minor pain in my abdomen for about a year...coming and going. Never mentioned it. Two games of tennis (which I won, thank you very much) and suddenly that minor pain was pretty severe. Dr. here says "probably pulled a muscle, no big deal". Three weeks later, I had protruding hernia on the right with a decent risk of stangulation. Booked a flight to Scotland where the doc's first words were, "Geez, that's a decent hernia thar laddie...and you have one on the left thar too!". In and out in two days and three days later I was hunting Roe. Moral of the story is "Don't trust just ONE doctor...and then go hunting". | |||
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You may have read the news last Wednesday that Vince Flynn, the best-selling author from Minneapolis, died after a battle with prostate cancer that had metastasized. He left a wife and three teenaged children. He was only 47! Get those checkups. Norman Solberg International lawyer back in the US after 25 years and, having met a few of the bad guys and governments here and around the world, now focusing on private trusts that protect wealth from them. NRA Life Member for 50 years, NRA Endowment Member from 2014, NRA Patron from 2016. | |||
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oh hell, you mean Mitch Rapp is dead??? that is a real bummer.. of course, i am also sorry that Vince Flynn is dead. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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WOW! All this seems to relate to what I went thru last year and am crippled up from it yet. Had persistant diahrea. Had my colon scoped. "smoothest one I've seen, no polyps, indentions, nothing amiss" sent me home. Never relieved it. Primary medic treated me all summer for the "calf scours". Got so bad it hit me every 15-20 minutes 24hrs a day those last two months. I had them from March til TIL Nov 7th a neighbor came to check on me knowing I'd been sick all summer. Told him: "Rick, I can't get up" "we're going to the ER." That was about 2pm. Took them til 10:30pm the 9th to stabilize me enough to gut me. Turns out my colon had ruptured and filled my belly full of shit. They left the belly open three days while they rinsed and sucked the crap out. I really feel I was within 24hrs or less of being dead when he came in. Spent 21 days in a coma, dr's told my sis: "better prepare yourself, he's not gonna make it and we're pulling the plug tomorrow". I must have heard that as I woke up the next morning. When she came in I was sitting up and said: "Hi Judy", she just about passed out. As bad as that trip was. They had me on one of those tilting beds that rotated me on the back fusion and created a pinched nerve at L4 (next to bottom lumbar disk). This not only creates lots of pain, but, has numbed my left leg from the knee down and feet too. Left one hangs so I've got to have a brace on or stub the dead toe in the floor and that trips me. I've fallen quite a few times, so far no injuries from it. I use a cane, or walker and spend most days sitting in a wheelchair as it's so much easier to get around in and get out of. Once out of the Hosp, I spent 9 wks in a nursing home learning how to feed myself, stand up, and walk again, I'm now pushing a shopping cart around the big stores and still eating too many pain pills for my liver's good. I'm looking at another back surgery in a couple months. Am having a R shoulder replaced Wed 26th (2 days). Pay attention guys, IF/when you get the shits as to how long it lasts. If more than just a very few days get to the ER or dr and have it tested to find out whats causing it. I had Chron's Disease. Til then, I never knew what it was even though I'd heard the words before. Couple days ago a buddy invited me to join him at the range. We fired some small cal rifles then went to the pistol range. I could barely hold up a blackhawk revolver with both hands and was waving it all over the hillside. Doubt I hit half the shots, even with his .22 semi's /reddot sights. Lots of pain too. I never use two hands, always one handed shot and did real well. These same 8" knockdown plates I seldom missed even with a snubby Smith .38 at 35yds. Wish you all well, and Larry, thanks much for starting this post. George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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Illness can strike anyone at anytime whether they think they have time for it or not. This statement won't make me very popular but I can live with it. I suspect the majority of the posters on this forum just like the majority of my patients, just plain do not take care of their bodies. Proper nutrition, adequate rest, well designed exercise, and limiting self abusive recreational pursuits can go a long way towards avoiding many diseases. In the USA, we are seeing a startling increase in morbid obesity and the diseases such as Diabetes that come hand in hand with it. You may not be able to choose not have an aneurism but you can personally go a long way to avoid obesity and all the maladies related.  ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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last year in Zim I had fever and bad headache in the back of my head for at least 5 + days. It was pretty bad. Finally at home it got better, It was weird " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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You are right. However, I have found that what I thought was good may not have been. I have always been an exercise freak. I went through college on a track scholarship. I estimate that I have run 150,000 miles in my life. While I don't run as much any more, I still exercise intensely. Weight has never been much of a problem throughout my life. When I got back from Africa last year, I decided to step up the exercise and reduce my food intake. Since October, I have GAINED 17 pounds while exercising HARD as much as 4 hours a day and eating between 1200 and 1500 calories a day. I got scared. I went to my doctor who also got scared. I went through a bunch of tests. People would kill for lab results like mine . She sent me off to a nutritionist. The nutritionist made me log what I ate and my exercise on a daily basis. She was pretty shocked at how little I ate and how much I exercised. She then told me that I was starving my body to death. My metabolism had almost shut down. I was shocked. I am now eating a lot more and a lot differently,largely more protein. Much to my surprise, I am losing weight rather quickly. I am done with the do it your self approach on my health and fitness after this. | |||
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Larry, Good thread. My husband finally went to the doctor for the first time since 1989. He had to have an examination and waiver signed so he could do Kilimanjaro in September. In 29 plus years he missed 5 days of work and three of those were for a funeral. Some people are of the stubborn mind set if I am not sick or injured why go to a doctor. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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Exercise physiology and nutrition has been and is still evolving. We are a long way from when I used to put raw eggs, a banana, and some milk in a blender for my mornings start 45 years ago. I too have been tough on my body from an overuse standpoint for physical pursuits. At 60 this year I now Crossfit and eat mostly Paleo/Primal. I continue to get stronger, more endurance, and this type of fitness is applicable to everything else I choose to do physically. I don't count calories and don't have to. I eat when I'm hungry, I just make good choices. I get an annual checkup with fasting labs and have gotten my other standards of care such as my first colonoscopy at 50. I say first because I have had three to date. Polyps, that could have easily become a cancer have been removed. This is no slam on anyone who chooses not to eat clean or exercise. It's a personal choice. ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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I hear you. I had a dull pain in my ass for years. I foolishly ignored it, but then day by day it became more and more acute. Finally, I sought legal assistance, and went in for a wifectomy. It was painful and expensive, but well worth it.  Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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To Saeed and all of us: If there is an award for thread starter of the year, I nominate larryshores. He may very well have saved a life or two, or more. Brice | |||
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Oh Mr.Robinson.You are awful,but I like it!  jc | |||
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I hear you. +2 on the wifectomy. | |||
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Larry: you sound a lot like me, struggled my whole career and life with weight, but thankfully I have incredibly good genes. Dad is 92 and can kick ass and my mother is 89 and can kick dad's ass  . That said, even though I don't fly anymore I still get an annual flight physical with full measure blood tests etc. Even had minimally invasive looksee at my ticker/arteries. No issues anywhere, but I STILL watch for any changes. And yes I did have a borescope done a few years ago and the results were what all of you already know; perfect asshole Keep the maintenance up boys, you'll live longer and enjoy what we all love to do! USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Extremely sound advice Larry. Don't ignore your body. Especially don't ignore it in Africa. Most North Americans/Europeans have been removed from the disease and parasites that our ph's are somewhat accustomed to. When I came down with cerebral malaria, it hit like a car crash. I went to bed, I thought I would "sleep it off". I didn't get up and tell anyone how sick I was. By the next morning, I couldn't get up at all. I suspect had I sought help that night my recovery would have been months shorter. | |||
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'Splains a lot!! Just sayin'  ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Hey, at least I have an excuse! So, what is YOUR excuse??? | |||
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Polish! ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Hey Jorge: Got a big chuckle over your ending!! Mentioned your folks ages. Just to compare a bit. Both sides of my family lived to old age. Grandad was 86, Grandma 94, Dad 92.8, Mom smoking cancer got her at 86, her parents were 83 and 86. Dad's b/s's: lost four little ones due to the dust in the 30's, the rest except one heavy drinker have all made it to late 80's or: last uncle just had his 90th the 15th, oldest sister is now 93+ as is her husband. Last aunt is 89. Shucks we even had an ancester way back in 1717 that died at 88, fathered 16, had just got mar again for the 6th time. So old age is historically in both sides of my family. Nearly everyone that lived made it to mid 80's or longer. Doc: I've always been very active and feel I've eaten healthily, wt hasn't given much problem though I've gained 20# since basic. At 69 I'm now 223#, 6'1" broad shouldered etc. Sure I lean on my belt but, nothing like most guys 2/3's my age. So please explain yourself a bit. I understood your comments to apply to me and the Chron's. IF that was your intentions, please explain either here or pm if you prefer. I'd like to know just what the hell caused it as no one in my family on either side has had anything like this, nor anyone I've ever known either. IF you Can help with the education, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. Anyway, I second the motion for Larry starting this thread. George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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Heh, almost passed out while driving on Interstate 5 last Sunday, and made it to the E.R. After an overnight on heart monitors, echo studies of my heart and carotids and serial blood tests, the diagnosis was vasovagal syncopy. But the seriousness with which the docs took my symptoms led me to realize that I'd be a damned fool not to pay attention to what my body is trying to tell me. So I'm going to be a better listener from here on out. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Man this is real timely: I work in Northern Alberta at the oil refinery construction projects. One hour away by air from Edmonton. On the 1st of May I woke up in camp to go to work. left arm is killing me, headache, back molars on the left side feel like someone is trying to push them out of my jaw from inside my scull. I figured I would walk it off because I slept wrong. Showered, dressed, went for breakfast, boarded the bus to go to site. On the bus I broke out in a hot sweat that soaked me from head to toe. Arrived at site and immediately went to first aid. To make a long story shorter, I am having a full blown heart attack. Medi-vac'd to Edmonton for surgery. One artery 100 % blocked, the rest clean as a whistle. Stent inserted and sent home to rest; followed by physio and lifestyle classes and instruction. Doctors say I had a major heart attack. Due to the quick response and excellent care, heart damage is minor. Stamina is way down and I am on drugs for the rest of my life. Here is the real kicker. For two months before the attack, my left arm and shoulder were sore with major tingling in my left hand. I could have avoided all of this and not lost all my wages if I had listened to my body. Thankfully I go back to work July 22nd and due to the attack, I am now making firm plans to go to Africa next year. Ladies and Gentlemen, listen to your bodies. Go see your your Doctor. And for the love of all that is good, don't put off our wishes and desires. There is NO BEST TIME to do something. The best time is now, while you're healthy. Kind regards, Carpediem No politician who supports gun control should recieve armed protection paid for by those he is trying to disarm. Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways-scotch in one hand-Chocolate in the other-body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WHOO-HOO, WHAT A RIDE!!" Madly Off In All Directions | |||
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Hey! You must stop with all this hospital stuff. Aren't you coming over shortly.  | |||
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I am one of my favorite people. When I think things aren't right, I go to the doctor, well sometimes I do, sometimes I ignore it hoping it will go away. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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Well, I read Larry's first message and decided to do something about some nagging problems. On Tuesday morning, I called my primary care physician and he, after listening to my complaints, set me up for tests the next morning (yesterday). Dang, if the V.A. doctor wasn't a high school friend who had been an internist in Denver and had "retired" to work at the V.A. hospital in Lake City, Florida (where I was directed). I'll bet she never thought, fifty years ago, that she'd be poking something up my butt to check why I had some bleeding. Well, thank you, Larry. It was just some internal hemorrhoids (which all fighter pilots have, on and off), but after stopping at the local grocery and loading up on prunes, my wife and I slept a little better last night. I know that colon cancer is the second or third biggest killer out there. Why I waited for several months to get checked was because of all the reasons we all have, but, early detection is the key to cures. I had let myself and my family down and at risk because of my worries and selfishness. I thank the Good Lord I didn't have the Big "C", but, I don't know how long I'd have waited without Larry's urging. Every day counts and we all need to remember that. Thank you, my friend! JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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Unfortunately that is where we go wrong - if its there it ain't going away and the earlier you discover it the better. Come a certain age - they talk 50 onwards; go for a full Monty at least once a year. | |||
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And there went the bloody ozone?  All is well that ends well though. | |||
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