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Thinking of a SA rifle for little stuff to match my 7mm Mauser, 300H&H, etc

Ideas? Thoughts?


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Not sure about your definition of "small stuff" but the .425 Westley Richards happens to be the original Short Magnum cartridge of them all...
 
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6.5x54 M/S tu2


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Not sure about your definition of "small stuff" but the .425 Westley Richards happens to be the original Short Magnum cartridge of them all...


500 Jeffery doesn't require a magnum action.


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I was thinking of getting the Ruger African in .223, but most of my rifles are Model 70s and I have an action sitting idle and pondering something along those lines in a more 'African' caliber than .223


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How about the 1915-vintage .250-3000 Savage (2.515" COAL)?

If you have to have an English cartridge, the.244 H&H (3.58" COAL)?

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+10000000! Yessss!

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Not sure what everyone else considers a short action, but I think a suitable short action is 375 H&H Smiler
 
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.275 H&H Magnum?


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nope...375. Its as short as I go. I have issues to make up for
 
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nope...375. Its as short as I go. I have issues to make up for

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6.5x54 M/S tu2
tu2 And pair it with a 9.5x57 M/S...


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Give me a pair of 6.5x54s with a pair of 9,3x62s and a pair of 12,7x70mm Schulers....then I'll hunt the world for life. I will probably also need 2000 rounds of ammo per gun. Smiler
 
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Hah what a question! .22 LR in a Mauser. Wonder how many small antelope, and of course guinea fowl and francolin have been taken with this rifle/calibre combination. Every young boy's dream! Yes a short action, and cartridge length does not get much shorter
 
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Hah what a question! .22 LR in a Mauser. Wonder how many small antelope, and of course guinea fowl and francolin have been taken with this rifle/calibre combination. Every young boy's dream! Yes a short action, and cartridge length does not get much shorter


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6.5x54
275 Rigby aka 7x57
275 H&H
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I don't know about traditional but I think the most useful caliber for "little stuff" to augment your "7mm Mauser, 300H&H, etc" would be the .22LR rimfire.




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It is obviously the most used cartridge in Africa, and is a short action--

7.62x39

Not widely used in bolt actions --------------but adaptable

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.475 No. 2 (Eley). About as short as I want to go. I like to hunt eles.


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I have exactly that combination! I wish I could take them to Africa and actually hunt with the great Mannlicher Schoenauer rifles.


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6.5x54 M/S tu2
tu2 And pair it with a 9.5x57 M/S...


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458 WM

Have used bullets from 200gr up to 500gr and taken game from Duiker to Eland to Buffalo.

What more could you ask for in one rifle?
And its shorter than the 375


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Get a 6mm Musgrave rifle built on a Siamese Mauser action, styled to look like a classic English rifle. Cool

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458 WM

Have used bullets from 200gr up to 500gr and taken game from Duiker to Eland to Buffalo.

What more could you ask for in one rifle?
And its shorter than the 375


the ruger is a little smaller than the hh and so same size as the 458 win mag a good combo for sure ...
 
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Originally posted by jvw375:
Not sure about your definition of "small stuff" but the .425 Westley Richards happens to be the original Short Magnum cartridge of them all...


500 Jeffery doesn't require a magnum action.


+1


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My vote is for the .22 Hornet. John Taylor mentions it a lot.
 
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