Is there a 'traditional' short action African cartridge?

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21 January 2014, 21:14

Duckear

Is there a 'traditional' short action African cartridge?

Thinking of a SA rifle for little stuff to match my 7mm Mauser, 300H&H, etc

Ideas? Thoughts?

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21 January 2014, 23:11

jvw375

Not sure about your definition of "small stuff" but the .425 Westley Richards happens to be the original Short Magnum cartridge of them all...

22 January 2014, 00:03

jbderunz

quote:
Originally posted by jvw375:
Not sure about your definition of "small stuff" but the .425 Westley Richards happens to be the original Short Magnum cartridge of them all...

500 Jeffery doesn't require a magnum action.

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22 January 2014, 00:39

Duckear

I was thinking of getting the Ruger African in .223, but most of my rifles are Model 70s and I have an action sitting idle and pondering something along those lines in a more 'African' caliber than .223

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22 January 2014, 00:54

GeorgeS

How about the 1915-vintage .250-3000 Savage (2.515" COAL)?

If you have to have an English cartridge, the.244 H&H (3.58" COAL)?

George

22 January 2014, 00:54

Nakihunter

+10000000! Yessss!

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22 January 2014, 04:41

Full Roar

Not sure what everyone else considers a short action, but I think a suitable short action is 375 H&H

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22 January 2014, 06:16

Full Roar

nope...375. Its as short as I go. I have issues to make up for

22 January 2014, 06:20

bwana cecil

quote:
nope...375. Its as short as I go. I have issues to make up for

Ditto

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22 January 2014, 10:40

capoward

quote:
Originally posted by WVFred:
6.5x54 M/S

And pair it with a 9.5x57 M/S...

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23 January 2014, 02:01

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23 January 2014, 02:32

tendrams

Give me a pair of 6.5x54s with a pair of 9,3x62s and a pair of 12,7x70mm Schulers....then I'll hunt the world for life. I will probably also need 2000 rounds of ammo per gun.

23 January 2014, 08:50

umzingele

Hah what a question! .22 LR in a Mauser. Wonder how many small antelope, and of course guinea fowl and francolin have been taken with this rifle/calibre combination. Every young boy's dream! Yes a short action, and cartridge length does not get much shorter

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24 January 2014, 06:47

Andrew McLaren

quote:
Originally posted by umzingele:
Hah what a question! .22 LR in a Mauser. Wonder how many small antelope, and of course guinea fowl and francolin have been taken with this rifle/calibre combination. Every young boy's dream! Yes a short action, and cartridge length does not get much shorter

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18 February 2015, 02:59

Grenadier

I don't know about traditional but I think the most useful caliber for "little stuff" to augment your "7mm Mauser, 300H&H, etc" would be the .22LR rimfire.

18 February 2015, 04:11

Sean Russell

It is obviously the most used cartridge in Africa, and is a short action--

7.62x39

Not widely used in bolt actions --------------but adaptable

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18 February 2015, 04:14

Dutch44

.475 No. 2 (Eley). About as short as I want to go. I like to hunt eles.

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18 February 2015, 04:49

Nakihunter

I have exactly that combination! I wish I could take them to Africa and actually hunt with the great Mannlicher Schoenauer rifles.

quote:
Originally posted by capoward:
quote:
Originally posted by WVFred:
6.5x54 M/S
And pair it with a 9.5x57 M/S...

"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."

18 February 2015, 09:44

Venture South

458 WM

Have used bullets from 200gr up to 500gr and taken game from Duiker to Eland to Buffalo.

What more could you ask for in one rifle?
And its shorter than the 375

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19 February 2015, 02:25

mehulkamdar

Get a 6mm Musgrave rifle built on a Siamese Mauser action, styled to look like a classic English rifle.

Good hunting with whatever you decide to buy / build.

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19 February 2015, 09:26

medved

quote:
Originally posted by Hunting the Box H:
458 WM

Have used bullets from 200gr up to 500gr and taken game from Duiker to Eland to Buffalo.

What more could you ask for in one rifle?
And its shorter than the 375

the ruger is a little smaller than the hh and so same size as the 458 win mag a good combo for sure ...

19 February 2015, 18:22

chuck375

quote:
Originally posted by jbderunz:
quote:
Originally posted by jvw375:
Not sure about your definition of "small stuff" but the .425 Westley Richards happens to be the original Short Magnum cartridge of them all...

500 Jeffery doesn't require a magnum action.

Regards,

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