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Considering another safari...

Interested in Zambia and the Matetsi area of Zimbabwe.

With Zambia just re-opening trying to find out who is reputable and runs a good operation? Particularly looking for Buffalo and sable near Kafue National Park.

Regarding Matetsi heard that bookings were way down and some operators really struggled, trying to determine who the current strong players are. Looking for Buffalo and Sable.

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Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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What are you hunting? Zambia will most likely be a better experience. Zim is on sale so go with someone you trust, ie CMS or Mokore.
 
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Gunny,


Good point...updated my post. Buffalo and Sable in both countries and in Zambia interested in hunting around Kafue.


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike - I've literally spent months hunting in/around the Kafue, if you need help you can email me at globalhunts@aol.com


Aaron Neilson
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It seems like there have been some good reports coming out of Zambia this year both in Luangwa and Kafue.

I have been watching some sites of tour operators in Kafue NP and it seems like things are improving rapidly from the dark days of poaching 10 years ago.
 
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Safari2,

Can you provide any specifics?


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Go on to Facebook and pull up "GM Safaris Zambia"

There are 2 or 3 recent reports here on AR
from Luangwa (Upper Lupande, Thor ..)

I am sure Andrew (Fairgame) can weigh in.
 
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Both potentially great biomes to hunt with really good buffalo and sable

If you want to hunt the Matetsi blocks 1-5 it wont take much research to figure out which are the better and what kind of a hunt to expect. I would hunt all of them except 4. Time of the year is important , game moves a lot in those areas and you could really struggle if you go at the "wrong" time. In Matetsi you can expect to stay in a old farm house style lodge and odds are you wont be the only person hunting out of that lodge nor will you have exclusivity on the concession. Bonus is Vic Falls is close so no charters and lots of non hunting activities available if you enjoy pre or post hunt vacations

The Kafue is wonderful IF you hunt the right blocks with a good outfitter. With the potential to shoot an exceptional Sable! There are however some seriously depleted GMA's in the Kafue region where you will really scratch hard to shoot decent animals. Camps will likely be traditional grass or tented. Charter to camp also a possibility

If i had to make a pick it would be Zambia. The best of the Kafue is exceptional!
 
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PM Fairgame, he has taken some Monster Sables and nice old Buff's out of his area on the Kafue.
 
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There are few areas that can offer good quality Buff and Sable together and royal Kafue is one of them. Possibly Nkala or Namwala.

Beauty of the kafue you have an option of 15 plus other species.

From what I can ascertain is that Zambia is pretty much fully booked for next year. Lions and all.


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Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com
Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144
Instagram - kafueroyal
 
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I am curious as to know why nobody can name an operator.


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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I did Mike ...GM Safaris Zambia.
 
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Ok, 344 views and 1 operator can be named in two major safari areas - seems odd.


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike,

OK mate I can offer you this opportunity in October in my concession in Royal Kafue. If you sift through the AR reports you will come across similar safaris with me and make your own judgement.

The other alternative is to split the safari between Luangwa for Buff and Kafue for Sable. But really depends on your budget and charters would be involved.


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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Ok, 344 views and 1 operator can be named in two major safari areas - seems odd.


Good morning Mike.

I have hunted extensively in numerous Zambia GMA's. Most of them were with the duPlooy's of Muchinga Adventures.

I can assure you of their professionalism and meticulous attention to detail.

Feel free to PM me for specifics.

Regards,

Steve


Formerly "Nganga"
 
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Fairgame,

I appreciate the response but I am in the research mode.

I am perplexed as to why it is so difficult for people to respond with the names of operators in each of the two areas.

I would think given the experience on this board that that people would be able to say:

In Matetsi - consider these two or three operators

In Kafue - consider these two or three operators


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Ok, 344 views and 1 operator can be named in two major safari areas - seems odd.


Good morning Mike.

I have hunted extensively in numerous Zambia GMA's. Most of them were with the duPlooy's of Muchinga Adventures.

I can assure you of their professionalism and meticulous attention to detail.

Feel free to PM me for specifics.

Regards,

Steve


Except they do not have a Kafue area? Nor can offer Sable?


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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Fairgame,

I appreciate the response but I am in the research mode.

I am perplexed as to why it is so difficult for people to respond with the names of operators in each of the two areas.


Mike,

That is my offer and you can scratch it off you list. I would suggest Mushingashi but it is going through a sale and everything is on hold.

Nyamwala in the Kafue is hunting very well and you can find the good Greg Michelson on FB. Or I can get him to contact you direct?


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Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com
Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144
Instagram - kafueroyal
 
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Steve,

Thanks for the substantive response.


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Fairgame,

Not sure what offer I would be scratching off my list since one was not made.

Unless you consider the statement by you:

"OK mate I can offer you this opportunity in October in my concession in Royal Kafue" an offer and that I was supposed to infer that you meant buffalo and sable and there is no mention of approximate length of the hunt, approximate cost, or the suggestion to contact you for further details.


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Fairgame,

I appreciate the response but I am in the research mode.

I am perplexed as to why it is so difficult for people to respond with the names of operators in each of the two areas.

I would think given the experience on this board that that people would be able to say:

In Matetsi - consider these three or four operators

In Kafue - consider these three or four operators




Hi mike,

If you are looking to hunt sable and buffalo in one area and to be guaranteed of both then there is one operator who I can recommend.

He hardly gets talked about on this forum but he runs Zambias finest GMAs. Speak to Zaeed Patel or his partner Peter Chipman.

They run the following concessions.
Luangwa areas-

Lower Luapnde
Lumimba Mwanya
Petauke West
Nyamvu game reserve
Nyakolwe game reserve



Kafue areas-

Mufunta GMA
Ilinda GMA


His Kafue areas are known for massive sable and sitatunga but buffalo are a rarity.

His Luangwa areas are special and should you want to hunt a buffalo in Luangwa then he can easily arrange to charter you to one of his Kafue areas after to collect your sable.

The hidden gem of his areas is his personal game ranch called Nyamvu. It is 40,000 hectares of unfenced prime hunting land bordering Petauke west GMA. There you can shoot trophy sable as well as buffalo and many other species that Zambia has to offer. His camps are fantastic and very well organized.

Zaeeds contact number is +260 97 8773561
Peter Chipman can be got held of on +260 96 1666676.
 
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Njati,

Thank you very much for the info. I was fortunate enough to chat with Peter Chipman years ago at SCI right after he was attacked by that lion that was captured on video.

Seemed like a very nice fellow.


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1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike,

Indeed peter is a very nice fellow and very experienced in his field also. Nyamvu is a special area that has been turned in to a hunters paradise over the last 9 years. An example of how an area can be turned around from being completely depleted to one that would rival any existing GMA in Zambia.
 
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Fairgame,

Not sure what offer I would be scratching off my list since one was not made.

Unless you consider the statement by you:

"OK mate I can offer you this opportunity in October in my concession in Royal Kafue" an offer and that I was supposed to infer that you meant buffalo and sable and there is no mention of approximate length of the hunt, approximate cost, or the suggestion to contact you for further details.


Mike,

What I meant was that Royal Kafue was one option to consider.

Njati mentioned Nyamvu in the Luangwa which is another but I was under the impression Zaeed was sold out?

Mufunta is good for Sable but not for Buffalo,

Historically Kasonso and Lunga Busanga were good for both but not so sure anymore.


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Mike as I understand it the situation in Matetsi is "fluent" with operators coming and going due to Parks managing the areas directly.

I also understand that some South Africans are operating there with Zimbabwean Partners.

The people that I know off is:
Katzke Safaris
Paul Stone Safaris

The Zimbabweans on here, Buzz and Martin, should be able to give more direct and detailed information when they get on here again. It might be worth your while to contact Martin Pieters direct.

I hope this helps a bit, although there is no solid info in here.

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Mike,

3 weeks ago I returned from Matetsi visiting my PH friends Stephen Meyer and Talmage Alexander. They had clients in camp and the hunting was great. Some nice buffalos and great sable there. While I was there Cliff Walker guided a client to a magnificent lion male. Nice comfortable camps and Vic Falls is only a short drive away to spend some time. PM me if you need more info and contact details for Lowveld Hunters.
 
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Big sable seen a couple of weeks ago at Nyamvu. Unfortunately he was off license. Looked to be about 45 inches plus.



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Mike,

Both Andrew and the Du Plooys/Muchinga Adventures can offer you sable and buff etc in the Kafue. The Du Plooys don't have a Kafue area but can arrange a safari in the Sichifulo GMA. I just had a client in Sichifulo with Johnny Du Plooy and it was a truly fabulous experience for them.

I do not represent anyone in the specific Matetsi Units in Zimbabwe so I can't speak to that. Zim will be your less expensive destination and if a sable and buffalo are your targets there are some reasonably priced options but maybe not in Matetsi.

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Andrew,

Thanks for the clarification above and nice sable.

Charl,

Thanks for the info...sometimes a lack of available specifics is an answer in and of itself.

Kallie,

What unit of Matetsi is that?


Thanks to all,


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Ok, 344 views and 1 operator can be named in two major safari areas - seems odd.


Good morning Mike.

I have hunted extensively in numerous Zambia GMA's. Most of them were with the duPlooy's of Muchinga Adventures.

I can assure you of their professionalism and meticulous attention to detail.

Feel free to PM me for specifics.

Regards,

Steve


Except they do not have a Kafue area? Nor can offer Sable?


Andrew,

I was simply offering some names up since Mike wasn't getting any help.

And the duPlooy's still have Tondwa do they not?

I wouldn't consider Tondwa a classic Sable destination. However it has a unique offering of iconic Zambian species. Sable, Roan, Sitatunga, Livingstone Eland, Blue Duiker, Puku and I think I heard that some Buffalo have returned since my last visit in 2009 (?)

Regards,

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Mike,

My advise would be to go with Andrew Baldry in the Kafue. He is 100% on big sable and hard bossed buffalo. He is in partnership with his community where the revenue is shared directly with the community. Very few areas do this.

Not only will you get top class trophies. But hunting with Andrew is an experience on it's own. You will have a classic safari with him. He is a top class PH and has humor next to non.


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If you are not booking with Fairgame then you are making a mistake.
Andrew is a great guy running a superb concession.


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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Ok, 344 views and 1 operator can be named in two major safari areas - seems odd.


Good morning Mike.

I have hunted extensively in numerous Zambia GMA's. Most of them were with the duPlooy's of Muchinga Adventures.

I can assure you of their professionalism and meticulous attention to detail.

Feel free to PM me for specifics.

Regards,

Steve


Except they do not have a Kafue area? Nor can offer Sable?


Andrew,

I was simply offering some names up since Mike wasn't getting any help.

And the duPlooy's still have Tondwa do they not?

I wouldn't consider Tondwa a classic Sable destination. However it has a unique offering of iconic Zambian species. Sable, Roan, Sitatunga, Livingstone Eland, Blue Duiker, Puku and I think I heard that some Buffalo have returned since my last visit in 2009 (?)

Regards,

Steve


Definitely Chifunda for buff but then you are looking at another area for Sable. Charters tend to make or break a safari.


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Mike,

The genetics for Sable at Royal Kafue are amazing. I think I likely shot the smallest Sable taken out of there with Andrew Baldry and it was 43 inch.



I believe it was Steve416 that took a 50 incher.

I'm not much into tape measures but those numbers stuck with me. The area is beautiful with the likelihood of serenades by Lions nightly.

The Buffalo I killed on the Lion hunt was hard bossed.

Any specific questions about hunting with Andrew or at Royal PM me and I will give you my number to chat.

Cheers
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I hunted with Chattaronga Safaris in Matetsie in July of this year. Lots of free range sable to be seen, my dad got a decent one. They took good care of us. It was a raffle hunt that they donated to a handicapped group home my Brother is in so we apprecieated them helping out.

Did not see any Buff, but i understand they move in this area later season.

Lots of Lion here, and i understand Leopard. Plains game was harder to come by for us, although we saw lots of Sable.
 
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If I was on your situation I would book with Andrew in Royal Kafue, the man has a flawless reputation with lots of happy clients from this forum, he shoots some of the best sable I have seen in recent times, I have never seen a truly huge buff come from his area, but lots of nice hard bossed bulls that would make any hunter proud have been shot there, plus the hunting is done in a classic and enjoyable way and you may get to add other interesting species.


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Mike i have to agree that andrew is one of the best options for what you are wanting to hunt in zambia
 
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Hats off to Andrew for his humility and not blowing his own trumpet!

Wish you well mate! Wink


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Mike i have to agree that andrew is one of the best options for what you are wanting to hunt in zambia


Your Sable are very big mate. Another option.


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