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For those of you who have hunted these, and I am thinking of caracal, civet, serval, genet, wild cats, honey badgers, etc., how did you do it? Were they purely targets of opportunity, or did you hunt them with a purpose, by baiting, tracking, spot and stalk, with hounds, etc.? I have never hunted them, but I have seen some in the wild, always by pure accident. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | ||
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I have shot only one African wild cat, and that was by cance enounter. We were on the way back to cam just before sunset, and we saw it standing about 20 yards from us. I jumpd out and shot it. I have seen some of the others, but at times when it was not feasible to shoot one - like when we were very close to another animal we were after. We had a genet come to eat at our camp in Cete, and we used to throw food for it. It fed a few yards from us, totally unworried about us at all. | |||
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MR, I took a Caracal in Namibia in 2005 as a target of opportunity. We were heading out early in the morning and spooked him off a springbok kill. I took him on the run at about 30 yards (a VERY lucky shot). "I speak of Africa and golden joys; the joy of wandering through lonely lands; the joy of hunting the mighty and terrible lords of the wilderness, the cunning, the wary and the grim." Theodore Roosevelt, Khartoum, March 15, 1910 | |||
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Mike, Given enough time, dark of the moon and a spot light you can collect them on private land in Zim. Definitely not a slam dunk but doable. Otherwise they are pure chance encounters. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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i shot honey badgers in the loveld in zim - there were alot of them on that concession. genet cat we went out on a night hunt for as well as civet cat. i tried for serval and caracal but no success yet. mostly i think they just come around at the right time, but genet, civit and wild cats are quite eary to hunt for at night. they do make interesting mounts | |||
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The little cats and the pygmy antelope are very interesting. _______________________________  | |||
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I got this one in the late afternoon at Etemba Hunt and Safaris farm in central Namibia. It was feeding on wildebeest carrion that was a cheetah kill. I hit it with a .308 Win at 60 yards, taking out its innards, but it still managed to run 200 yards and blockage itself in a clump of acacia. I returned in the morning to retrieve it since it was still full of fight and it was getting dark. I didn't want to tangle with it in the thorns.  Namibiahunter  . | |||
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I have taken jackel, civit cat, caracel, and honeybadger. All were chance encounters, except the homey badger, I shot him on a leopard bait. The PH was informed that the little creatures were high on my list. All were taken with a 9,3x74R double rifle, except the honeybadger, he was taken with a Blaser R 93 in 308. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I have shot an African Wildcat, a Genet, a Caracal all with a light. The Caracal we treed with a dog the next am and finished him off..that was an exciting chase. Jackal I have shot plenty, some by chance, some by calling. Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear | |||
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Had a honey badger that I wanted to shoot in Namibia but was told I couldn't. Didn't see any wild cats. Wanted a caracal. Shot lots of jackals though! | |||
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Here's a pic of my African Wild Cat, taken with a predator call and a 222. We saw a lot of them, but only needed this one. I think it is still around #6 SCI.  Saw both serval and caracal, but usually only at night, when traveling back to the lodge. There were two small ones in a cage right by my room, that I could watch and feed every day. They do run a lot of them with dogs, which seems to be the most productive way. Some of the hunters have become real specialists on the small ones. Have been lucky enough to see a lot of honey badgers, and also some bat-eared fox. Both seem too pretty for me to take. Shot quite a few jackals on both my trips to Namibia - calling, and incidentally while hunting. We had a silenced 22LR along, anytime we were in a blind. The 17HMR was a death ray on them last year. The 375 H&H with AccuBond's was definately overkill! | |||
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Caracal, Civet, and Serval are all on my 2010 menu. I've only seen one Caracal and three African Wildcats on my first two safaris to RSA, so I will be very pleased to get even one of these little cats.  | |||
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Area is important, but we use dogs, bait or calling where legal. I'm after all of them next month in Zim. I'll post a report when I return. I've taken several Caracal and Genet and find them as game as any larger cousin. FYI: I'm not a fan of using OO Buck on treed Caracal. Nine .30 caliber holes go in, and nine come out. LDK  Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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LDK, that kitty sure doesn't have milk on his lips! Well done, sir. I'm a bait or call fellow myself. Bait took genet, honey badger, civiet. Call took a caracal but nowhere near yours in size. Calling over there is sure a 180 from calling over here, eh? dan Dan Donarski Hunter's Horn Adventures Sault Ste. Marie, MI 49783 906-632-1947 www.huntershornadventures.com | |||
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I have a buddy offering to pay my trophy fees for a honey badger (nickname for his ex-girlfriend) and asked my PH about it and have not heard a response. Can you not shoot them in the Eastern Cape? I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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Hunting the smaller carnivores is a blast! Night hunting with a spot light and a predator call and not knowing what you will see or what to expect is great fun! | |||
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How very true that is. We went night calling for jackals with the 22 Mag and a 17 HMR one evening and a powerful red spotlight; the pucker factor when there are lions around keeps you very alert. When one set of eyes showed up that was about 6" apart, the PH squeezed my arm and said "Don't shoot, hyena". Never did get it close enough to find out if it was a common one or an endangered brown one. African bush really comes alive at night. | |||
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Thanks Dan, I was very happy with him, but you should have seen the 50 pounder my PH's brother took! Now that was a Cat! He had a skull the size of a softball. I hope to continue to hunt them for as long as I hunt Africa. They are as slick as greased lightning, especially where they are hunted aggressively. Good hunting, David Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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LDK, This is what a 30.8 kg [or about 68lb] caracal looks like.  In good hunting. Andrew McLaren | |||
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That is one Huge chuck of puddycat. | |||
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All will come to the same mouth-blown predator calls we use here in Arizona. I've brought in two caracals, a civet, an African wildcat, and lots of jackals. Have yet to see my first honey badger. Bill Quimby | |||
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I have a ranch with lots of small predators on it. Some do harm to livestock, some not. Please ensure that whatever small carnivore you are killing is not endangered or protected. As a hunter you are potentially doing a great deal of harm and I suspect that many of these animals killed were never meant to be. An East Cape PH who is an expert on the breeding and status of small carnivores is Richard Holmes of Mulberry Grove Safaris near Cradock. A search of him and contact will get you all the information you need. He has captive breeding programmes that are world renowned. Not for hunting! | |||
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I've taken side striped jackal, civet, and genet cat. I've had fleeting night shots at a couple of African Wildcat and just cleanly blew a "chip shot" at night on a big honey badger in August. Here's a picture of the civet I took on the same trip. All of them have been night hunts and taken as targets of opportunity with the .375 and trophy bonded slegehammer solids.  | |||
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Mark took this one on our Leopard hunt in Zim: African Wild Cat. Night hunting on private property.  On another night hunt: Genet  The ultimate hunt yielded him a Leopard. First evening in his blind. He hunted one hour. 167 lbs, 17" skull  On the same hunt, I took my third Genet:  We saw numerous Civit, Genet, Wild Cat, Caracal and even the coveted Serval but either the animal slipped away, was a juvenile or we were stalking something larger. Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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There are operators that "specialize" in small predators... And the "specialized" aspect of these "hunts" frequently revolves around releasing a caracal, genet or serval in front of a pack of trained dogs... Regards, Chris Troskie Tel. +27 82 859-0771 email. chris@ct-safaris.com Sabrisa Ranch Ellisras RSA www.ct-safaris.com https://youtu.be/4usXceRdkH4 | |||
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The real specialized knowledge required is how and where to trap these smaller predators in the first place. Then there is also some specialized knowledge required on how to keep them alive without them damaging nails, pelt and teeth until your hunting client is ready for his 'hunt'! And all this without being caught, as there is simply no way that any Nature Conservation Authority is going to issue a HO with a permit to legally trap, keep or transport any such predator for release in front of a pack of trained dogs!  Your post makes me think of Blair338/378's signature line "If you quoted it......You Said It"!!! But you are quite correct: It is a matter of "Buyer Beware!" when booking a hunt with any Hunting Outfitter who claims a high success ratio on such smaller night predators. You may be shooting a canned animal! Come to think of it, much the same applies for leopard and lion as well as other predators (?) which are very often "canned", but cleverly disguised to look like an ethical hunt. Here is a very good description of such a canned lion hunt by JudgeG: https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/...=892102017#892102017In good hunting. Andrew McLaren | |||
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I shot a civit in Zim 2004. I get more comments on that animal than any of the others I have on display in my business. It was strictly a target of opportunity. H Kittle | |||
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We took a special trip this past year to Namibia to film for our predator hunting video. It was a bit of a gamble, as calling is just starting to catch on over there, but it was very productive. In 7 days we shot around 30 Jackal, 3 wildcats, we could have shot many more, but we let the rest walk, 1 caracal and even some baboons responded. It was a great trip! | |||
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I targeted a bunch of the small stuff this year and was fairly successful. We did spot and stalk only, no calling. I have never seen so many of these types of predators during the day before. I guess I was extremely fotunate in this regard. I think as long as you are concentrating on the small stuff it is very do able but there is still a great deal of luck involved.    Happiness is a warm gun | |||
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