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DSC Expels Safari Operator For Life (posted September - 2012) African hunting operator Doug Scandrol has the dubious distinction of being the first member in the history of Dallas Safari Club to be expelled for life from that organization. Last month, DSC's Ethics Committee, with the support of the Board of Directors, agreed to rescind Scandrol's membership and ban him from ever exhibiting at the DSC convention again. According to DSC Executive Director Ben Carter, Scandrol and his company Swanepoel & Scandrol Safaris (SwanScan Africa Holdings, LLC) have not met various obligations to DSC and its members. Specifically, Scandrol has either not made good on hunts sold to DSC members or has not shipped trophies taken by clients on safaris with Swanepoel & Scandrol Safaris. Hunting Report subscriber Wilson Stout is one of those hunters. Stout's case goes back to a Tanzanian safari he did with Scandrol three years ago. Stout had met with me at the 2010 DSC Convention to file a controversy report on Scandrol, but decided to withdraw the complaint after DSC's Ethics Committee intervened..... http://www.huntingreport.com/current_issue.cfm?id=882 ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | ||
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The very first safari company that I research for a safari was S & S. Sure am thankful I passed on them. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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I lived in Texas for a couple of years, I represented Texas in shooting contests, won championships in the name of the State of Texas, and have always considered myself as an honorary Texan. I am proud that our own club has wasted no time in acting against such behaviour. Just as they did against the likes of Mark Sullivan and other shady characters in the hunting industry. Hats off to DSC!  | |||
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I agree that action should always be taken if this sort of thing or worse pops up. I must say in this case I was a bit surprised. Maybe I have been out of the loop too long but I always thought they had a pretty decent reputation until now. Is this a new turn of events or has this been brewing for awhile and I was unaware? I don't know them personally so cant speak from any experience here. Happiness is a warm gun | |||
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Saeed, I welcome you as an honorary Texan. Also, I may have my timeline off, but remember you becoming a lifetime DSC member not long ago after DSC paid for the AR dinner a few years ago. A very nice gesture of gratitude from both sides. I think it has contributed to the AR gathering room, etc. at the convention. It was a few years ago that DSC amended its rule pertaining to ethics and it seemed to be an effort to curtail a lot of the crooked scandal/"Scandrol" types of operations and members. Although there is a lot of flack directed towards SCI, I will say that our local North texas SCI Chapter does a great job. The chapter promotes conservation, child involvement, sensory safaris, and many other noble projects. They may be in the shadow of DSC and other hunting organizations in Texas, but it's a great group of people. AR's own Todd Williams is a board member, but I don't know any other active AR members. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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Some years ago, I booked a hunt with S&S after a glowing article by Craig Boddington. The hunt was the worst one I have ever been on. I will never book another hunt based on what he writes again. | |||
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Dunno how these cowboys get away with it. Swanscam we call them. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Are you suggesting that Craig had a bad hunt with them and lied about it???  A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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Why would Craig, or anyone else for that matter, have a bad hunt and report that it was all rosy? Many people have great hunts with certain outfitters, and a few that don't. As far as I am concerned, if there is more than ONE complaint, and it has not been addressed by the outfitter or PH, then that PH or outfitter does not get my business. We have far too many extremely good people in the hunting industry. Those are the ones we should be giving our support to. I have also made it a point that I never hunt with anyone who has been awarded the SCI PH of the Year award. There have been far too many crooks who have been given this award, and SCI did nothing to address the problems they had caused their clients afterwards. | |||
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There are also some very good PH's who have been given that award too Saeed... why taint them here? A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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It is my personal choice Matt, to avoid anyone who has gotten awards from SCI. | |||
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AAZ, those grapes seem to be coated with envy. | |||
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I know AAZ personally and if you did, "envy" would be about the farthest thing from his mind... USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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jorge, all I said it sounded like envy, I don't know him other than his comments on AR and they are always (if memory srves me correctly) always anti Craig if you will, just saying. JMO | |||
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DOU: Unlike others, I have never been critical of CB's writing - I actually like it other than the overuse of the words "lovely" and "great prizes." His story on Uganda was the first one I read last night in Petersen's HUNTING. I have said many times he is the most instructional writer, esp on Africa, out there. I have written here of this hunt before. Let me put out a few bullets: 1. The PH had me shoot a buffalo from behind without even looking at it from the front. It was my first buffalo hunt; I had no idea what a dumb idea this was. It was 26 inches and soft. 2. S&S subleased their area from Lucky Abdullah. How many times have we read on AR to NEVER book a hunt in a subleased area? Why write about that? 3. The PH complained the amount of business they were seeing as a result of comping that hunt was no where near what they expected. Gee, that makes me feel wonderful! Craig once wrote that he has been contacted many times by readers who booked hunts that he wrote about only to be disappointed. He pointed out that perhaps the guides/PHs worked extra hard, etc. Very good point, but to me just a great reason never to buy a hunt based on a story or TV show. I know a guide who used to work for a well known outfit in Alaska. That outfit hosted a writer every year; Bob Robb used to hunt there quite often if I recall. That guide was told not to hunt a certain basin so that it could be saved for the writer. I have said it many times: with the internet, why book a hunt based on a story? You have no idea if that guy got special treatment or otherwise embellished the story. I am hunting elk in two weeks in AZ; I booked my hunt after asking some folks on AR with whom I should book. I just got some scouting photos from my guide - it looks like I am going to have a great hunt. A friend once asked me if the true sin of envy was the desired to be envied. Made me think...especially if she thought I was guilty of it. | |||
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My bad, please accept my appology. | |||
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I have always been concerned that the "celebrity" hunters are given the royal treatment because that hunt WILL be reported on. Therefore, those reports are not necessarily indicative of their normal performance. "The difference between adventure and disaster is preparation." "The problem with quoting info from the internet is that you can never be sure it is accurate" Abraham Lincoln | |||
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Guys, I know a lot about S&S and have had several safaris with them. All were good except for the 2007 Safari in Tanzania which was a disaster and Doug simply screwed me. Trophies were ruined, area much to small, etc. It was K3 and owned by Sheni. I have also hunted lekis area and trust neither of them. Anyway, the good safaris I had were because of great PH's such as Bruce Watson, Cliff Walker, Lance Nesbit, Chris Burnie, Richard De Bufanos, etc. and nothing that Doug did. I had a real falling out with him and avoided him at the last two SCI shows. He got in way over his head in many areas and the recession brought out the worst I guess. I also do not think that the other side of S&S which is Peter Swanaepoel is of the same cloth but Fairgame may know a lot more about that than I do. I just know Peter as a person and have been with him in camp and have not seen anything to tell me different. At Vegas this year, they were clearly seperated. I think Peter was working hard to distance himself from Doug. Incidently and not that it changes anything, but Doug has quit hunting if I have it right and is very sick, not to hunt again. Just what I heard and no nothing else. Saeed, I wil not join in the SCI bashing but, I agree with you that the SCI hunter of the year is purely a bought and paid for honor. It means nothing to a real PH. York, SC | |||
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I have also heard that Doug is very sick. True or not, I do not know. | |||
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If Doug S is very sick and possibly dying, I am sure being banned from DSC is the last thing on his mind at this point. But it doesn't seem to stop the "haters" huh. Larry Sellers | |||
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I have been on four hunts with Cesspool and Scandal. NONE good. I also saw Doug at SCI 2012 and he looked fine to me. My first hunt with Doug was in the Selous one week before Boddington and the Remington People were to arrive. We spent most of our time burning grass for CB. None of Doug's PH's had ever been to the area prior to the hunt. Six guys took a total of 3 Buf (it was booked as a double buf hunt). Hunt 2 went ok except for the fact that Doug lost my trophy Buf. Much finger pointing . .but no trophy. Hunt 3 was a hunt "at cost". Not one Buf was seen on the hunt. The PH offered a big trophy if I wanted to hunt inside the Tarangere Park for $2,500 cash. I declined. Hunt 4 was to make up for Hunts 2 & 3 for free. I was responsible for airfare, trophy fees, and tips. The PH had never been to the concession. The border was also in dispute with the government. NOT ONE animal (other than Masai cattle) was seen. Not even an impala. All of the PH's we good, and did their honest best. I would hunt with any of them again but not through Doug at any price. | |||
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Fourhorsemen: I had a PH in Tanzania burn brush for about 1/4 of my hunt. Hind sight shows me it was to waste time so I would not shoot a buffalo. Sorry this happened to you, also. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Thanks for the clarification! A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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As for why CB would have a bad hunt and say it was "rosy", for the same reason that most gun writers have never found a firearm they test to be lacking in any way. | |||
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May I ask why you went to hunt with the FOUR times if your first was a disaster? | |||
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I hunted with S&S in 03 in the Selous with Bruce Watson. Hunt went great. Bruce was a spectacular PH and I would hunt with him again in a heartbeat. One of my friends took their family of 12 to Zambia last year and had an amazing safari. I have heard mixed reviews in recent years and have decided to stay away, but I can say my one experience was very positive. | |||
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Saeed - That was my thoughts exactly. Why would somebody keep going back to a "bad" place once they had a bad time??  Larry Sellers
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Why he went on #2 is a question I would like answered. But the fact that he went on #3 and #4 was simply a matter of trying to salvage something by going on a hunt at a reduced rate. And not offense intended, but guys like Saeed, CB, JOC and the like will rarely have to deal with being "screwed" on a hunt. No outfitter is stupid enough to try to rob someone of means($ or influence) to try to make a few extra dollars. But there are a lot of outfitters who will F*** the average guy in an attempt to make a few extra dollars. If you book a hunt based on the feedback of someone of means you are a fool(and we all know what happens to a fool and his money). Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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My thoughts exactly. I was totally ripped off by Hartley Combrink and Rashid Randera of Baobab Safari's and Nyampala Safaris in 2010. It is a long story, but I would warn anyone that if you suspect a problem on a potential trip - YOU HAVE A PROBLEM! I have enough experience in this business to know warning signs when I see them. I chose to ignore the warnings on my hunt with these two liars and got taken advantage of. Further, they hosed an honest, hard working PH in the process as well. If you want details, I will PM you. Back to S&S, I checked references on these guys a few years from names they supplied. Each reference was fine but I sensed I was not getting the full story and each hunter had one issue or another with S&S. I dropped them from consideration. In summary, if a deal remotely smells funny - RUN! | |||
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Yep? | |||
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As was said by someone else, he was either going at a reduced rate or free. So in order to try and salvage his original investment he made that choice. In this case it turned out to be throwing good money after bad as the saying goes. Again I ask is this a long term problem or something that has come up in the last few years? It does not justify anything but in looking at the big picture am trying to figure out the pattern. If it has been bad all along then I have to look at why I missed those warning signs. I never hunted with them. This is strictly from the point of future research. Happiness is a warm gun | |||
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A while back I heard some rumours that he had taken money from clients and never delivered. | |||
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The story/rumour was he 'invested' clients money/deposits in stocks and when they crashed he had to be bailed out by his long term client and investor Steve Chancellor. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Why four hunts? Because I fell for the BS. I was foolish enough to trust him based on his 1999 PH of the year from SCI and numerous good references. Doug is very sick. His time is short. I forgive him. | |||
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Thank you. I think I will continue to stay away from any PH who has been awarded anything by SCI! | |||
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As stated earlier,I hear he is sick. I also hear he went on a number of very expensive hunts on his own in a very short time frame. No offense intended but these hunts are way too expensive for a PH to afford. He may be sick. If he is, I am sorry for him. I am skeptical. I have seen the cancer card played by scam artists before. | |||
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Larry, You need to be a little specific with the title "PH" - Scoundrel may well be a PH but is also the outfitter. To outfit himself a hunt would cost him max 10% of the daily rates + the trophy fees only - assuming he hunts one of his many areas. An ordinary PH (note ordinary, not those who were born with a silver spoon in their mouf)working for wages would definitely not be able to afford similar hunts. | |||
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Fujo: I was referring to sheep hunts. I doubt there was any deal on these. | |||
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I believe it is called "playing possum" | |||
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Does that mean if I start to look pale and weak, I could get some sympathy hunts? Just askin.... | |||
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