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Weight and durability should be kept in mind thanks jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | ||
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Jeffe, While I agree with scubapro, it must be noted that the center [3rd] piece of foam in the pelican/Browning case is vital. It must be used, custom cut to fit your rifles and sufficient foam must be left at both ends to pad the rifle in an "end on" impact. [An intermediate piece of hard plastic/plexiglas type material at each end of the rifles will spread out the impact force some as well.] The Tuffpak appears to me to be a viable alternative as well though I have not used mine as yet, I plan to use it next year to Zimbabwe and South Africa. The ICC / Cabelas aluminum case seems quite substantial and probably lighter than the Pelican/Browning. My hunting partner in 2003 used one for his two wood stock rifles with no problems at all. Wheels are essential. All of these will be heavy with two rifles inside. Synthetic stocks seem to allow more leeway in packing security in my experience. Les | |||
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jeffe, I'm sure you'll get many people recommending the Tuff Pak and others but I think ICC cases really deserve some consideration. I've had one since I started traveling to hunt and it is still solid as a rock. The baggage gorillas have actually gouged metal off it, dented and smashed it but the hinges and latches continue to work perfectly. Most important of all my rifles have arrived in good condition each time. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I have the Pelican and the Aluminum variety. I like the pelican more, but the Aluminum is probably tougher? maybe? | |||
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I have used my Tuffpak on three safaris with not one problem. The best thing I have found with it is you can stuff extra coats in it, camera equipment and other bulky items. | |||
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I highly recommend the tuffpack. I've been to Africa twice, and all over North America with it. It will carry rifles as well as other essentials for the trip, cutting down on the amount of baggage necessary. I am sure there are occasional reports of damaged rifles in tuffpacks but that is true for any make of gun case. It is the best gun case I have ever owned and will be the last. | |||
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I have a Browning and a Cabelas.080 Aluminim and while I prefer the Browning mine does not have wheels so I use the Cabelas with cutouts for the guns. Both are heavy cases but I beleieve they protect the guns best from damage. The main advantage is the use of cutout forms to reduce movement. Also easy to inspect with little chance of being repacked improperly. SCI Life Member NRA Patron Life Member DRSS | |||
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My Tuff packs have made more trips off the continent than I have. So far, 19 excursions to destinations as Africa, Alaska, New Zeland, Australia, Argentina. Never as much as a scope of the site in mark. No damages at all and very secure. The new model of Tuff Pack has a TSA locking system which in some folks minds was the only thing lacking on the original models. There is room for three rifles with scopes as well as a lot of other stuff. I usually carry a couple of extra scopes as well as my binoculars and rangefinder in the pack. I stuff the heaviest jacket I intend to use in the bottom and put the rifles in Boydt gun cases with the side pocket to store the bolt in. There is a tuff sack option wich works well enough if you are not a big person like me. I usually put extras in the Tuff pack such as candy etc- stuff I want to give away until the case weighs a pound less than the max weight. It has done well for me and my friends. square shooter | |||
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This has been beat to death........ Search not working? Any way, Browing Travell Vault is the strongest, dent proof, dust proof, and it floats. Jim "Bwana Umfundi" NRA | |||
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Look at the risks. If someone is highly motivated to damage your guncase/guns, no case is "good". Case serves 2 real purposes. One is too make you feel better. That is, to provide a false sense of security (if its locked up its harder to steal the guns). [Actually easier to walk out of an airport with a locked case than someones double rifle over your shoulder] The second is to protect your firearms. The primary risk in this regard is NOT CRUSHING force but SHOCK. Some idiot dropping the case is the problem most likely to be encountered. When the case hits the ground it must do two things to protect your guns: 1. It must maintain physical integrity. (NOT COLLAPSE); and 2. It must stop your firearms from moving and slamming into the interior of the case (risk to any part of the gun) and to prevent the gun from moving and suddenly stopping within the case (risk primarily to optics). SO, there are the issues. Apply common sense and stir. | |||
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Thanks all. I have one of those huge thick aluminum cases I picked up 10 or 12 years ago, and it's HEAVY... which is fine for us travel, but.... you can put 3 long shotguns in it. I'll look into the pelicase and tuffpaks. jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Jeffe I have been taking a close look at Storm cases. I have not yet found anyone who owns one to give a report. They appear to rival and may exceed the pelican and starlite cases. ICC is also worth a look. SCI Life Member DSC Life Member | |||
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I have one of the Tuff pack bow cases. Holds my rifles well but will not fit my bows, figure that one out. I have been pleased with it for the most part. But with the new weight restrictions I have been considering buying one of the SKB cases. | |||
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I use the SKB Freedom case (version of the tuff pak design). Three rifles in a single case is really not necessary since most airlines limit two weapons per piece of luggage if not person. I put a pice of foam rubber in the bottom and one in the top. the rifles go inside of soft cases. i put all my other equipment in sleeping back stuff sacks and pack it around the rifles. The tongue that goes thru the aluminum hasp gets bent up usually. I just bend it back. The are two separate locks. At 1/4 of the price of the tuff pak and for the same protection. Plastic injection mold is plastice injection mold in my book. If the theives are gonna cut off two padlocks then it again matter what the case is really. Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Hi Guys: Pelican/Browning Travel vault..... sucker is heavy but has wheels and is damn near indestructible. Used on two trips to Africa, Montana and Alaska. We were in Montana, and my buddies Browning gun case got flipped out the back of the pickup truck on to the road. Scuffed up, but the rifles never got scratched, didn't even have to re-zero. Regards... Jim P. The Hunters Hut Firearms Sales & Service PAHunter/ The Head Hunter DRSS,NRA,SCI,NAHC www.huntershut1.com | |||
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Has anyone travelled with an Americase rifle case? I have extensively used both their single takedown and their two gun takedown shotgun cases, and hold Americase in high regard. However, I have never used their rifle cases. Here are two models: http://www.americase.com/pages/order/4010.shtml http://www.americase.com/pages/order/4005.shtml Are these two cases suitable alternatives for jeffeosso? | |||
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Pelican... -Steve --------  www.zonedar.com If you can't be a good example, be a horrible warning DRSS C&H 475 NE -------- | |||
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Jeffe, Check out this link: http://www.starlightcases.com/ I use the wheeled 2 gun model. Only one african trip under its belt so far, but it worked well. This was Cabelas house brand some years ago. | |||
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When does a gun case fall in the excessive baggage category? Most airlines have a limit of 62? inches(H+L+W) and anyting over is considered excessive. Delta states that anything over 80 inches won't be accepted. How much does the average 2 gun case measure? | |||
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I use a Kalispell regularly. It is thich and heavy but offers quite a bit of protection. One other thing I do is cut several pieces of foam pipe insulation to put in the case between the scope and the sides of the case. The foam is gray or black and the kind that you can split and put around water pipes to help insulate them. It is closed cell foam and I think it has helped. I have traveled around North America and to Zimbabwe twice and have never had to adjust the scopes on my rifles after the trips. If the fit is close between the barrel and the other rifle's stock you can slide a piece over the barrel to keep it off of the opposing gun's stock. If you take you bolts out of the rifles, you can slide them into a short piece to keep them from banging around. Maybe it is overkill on my part but it is cheap insurance. Just my $0.02. | |||
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I have a Tuffpak which I will hopefully get to use on an African Safari one day but what is the best soft cases to use inside the Tuffpak? Regards JohnT | |||
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Dang Jeffe, I was going to try to sell you my 3 rifle Americase!  Thing takes 3 men and a small boy to carry! Thank goodness, it came with wheels and a handle! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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"Originally posted by Wooly ESS: Has anyone travelled with an Americase rifle case? I have extensively used both their single takedown and their two gun takedown shotgun cases, and hold Americase in high regard. However, I have never used their rifle cases." I own a 4010. My advice is don't bother as it is pathetic for airline travel. My hunting partner owned the other one or a close copy and an airline managed to punch a hole through the side somehow. Fortunately it did not damage either rifle. Neither of our cases were of full aluminum construction. I've been using a Zeigel case since for airline travel. The airlines have beat the hell out of it but the rifles remain undamaged. | |||
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I would like to know if anyone used the pelican case for one rifle alone and what they thought of the idea of bringing two rifles and two cases along? | |||
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Jeffe, I have a TuffPack, two Kalispel's amd a Pelican. They're all good. They're all heavy. In terms of useful shape ... I'd have to give that to the TuffPack if you can pack it to max weight with clothes. In terms of maximum protection for the firearm, I'd have to give that one to the Pelican if it is cut to an exact fit for the contents. It's the one I ship DRs by common carrier. The easiest to travel with in the US is the Kalispel ... but they also so more damage from airlines abuse over time. Ain't no perfect solution when you throw weight into the equation. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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I compaired the Pelican w/ the Storm case and to me the Storm case was the obvious choice. At Home on the Range-Texas Panhandle | |||
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My Tuffpak weighs 45 lbs. loaded with the following: .416 Rigby .30/06 Two Kolpin Scopetector softcases Two spare scopes and mounts I'll add some bubblewrap but not much else can be added with the 50 lbs. limit. ............................................. | |||
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I have a smaller Pelican 1400 that I use for ammo. The case looks quite well made to me but, I have never seen a Storm. Could you elaborate a bit on your statement above? Why was the Storm a better choice? My brother and a friend are both looking for travel cases and I would like to pass this info onto them. Best Regards, Dave | |||
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This is the only case I use. (Yes I have tried tuffpacks and guns have been ok, but they are heavy and huge.) On the ICC cases they do install wheels on them if you like. http://www.icc-case.com/ Mink and Wall Tents don't go together. Especially when you are sleeping in the Wall Tent. DRSS .470 & .500 | |||
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The first time we went to Africa to hunt we took a two-gun Americase. Is is sturdy, but heavy. Now it sits in the garage. I have been using a TufPak for the last several hunts. Mine is green, and the various airport employees who have tried to guess the contents never say guns. Fishing rods is the most common guess. I pack two soft cases in the TufPak, butt up. Then you can open the case zippers and slide out the rifle without unpacking (to show empty or the serial number). I wrap some clothing around the soft cases, and use three or four small bungee cords to form a bundle -- which can slide in or out of the case as a unit if they really want to see everything. They are great cases, and the only one I use now. I know the owners of NalPak, and they are really great people and support hunting too. jim if you're too busy to hunt,you're too busy. | |||
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I have used many different gun cases over the years. I purchased my Tuff Pak when they first came out and I am still using it. It has been to Africa so many times that I have lost count. Other than scars and scratches on the outside its as good as new. I pack stuff around the soft gun cases inside, like boots, coats, whatever. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Jim, I own multiple storm cases and believe they are the best cases around, second pelican. The Storm case is very strong and less heavy than the pelican. I have other cases like Browning, SKB Etc. The Storm case is just a superior product. Roland Storm Case Applications Nothing is too delicate to be shipped in a Hardigg case. Ours have been used to protect cruise missile engines, Hubble space telescope components, aircraft auxiliary power units (APUs), gyroscopic guidance equipment, computers, optics, medical equipment, and hazardous materials. Just one military unit has 500,000+ Hardigg cases in their logistics system. We have over 50,000 M-16 rifle cases in worldwide service as well. Hardigg (Storm Cases)has been engaged by government, military, and industrial clients, as well as major information technology suppliers. We have provided cases for: Fragile major repairables (WRA/SRA) ship and aircraft electronics Cruise missile engines, F107-101 and F107-400 Destructor, Mark 41 flight gear, shipping and storage case Reverse osmosis filter element (water purification system) Advanced cruise missile engine F112-WR-100 Major repairable (WRA/SRA) ship and aircraft electronics (80132-13414) Avionics electronics and gyros (15-24G instruments) MIL-SPEC Verification Tests Fungus Resistance Water Vapor Transmission Rate Free Fall Drop (Ambient) Free Fall Drop (140ºF to -40ºF) Leak Test (Pneumatic & Immersion) Concentrated Load Handling Test Humidity Test Salt Fog Test Chemical Resistance Loose Cargo Bounce Handle Pull Test Rain Test Water Tight Splash Test Altitude Test Temperature Shock Test Sand and Dust Resistance Superimposed Load (Stacking) Flammability Tests Sunshine Tests (Solar Radiation) Vibration (Transport Profiles) (Foam and Cases are made in the USA)     | |||
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DavidC: check out Roland1's post. Ifound the latches better and more of them as well as the wheels were a much better design. Case (side by side) seemed sturdier and better looking. DrC At Home on the Range-Texas Panhandle | |||
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I have a Storm Case, a Pelican Case, and a Starlight case. For me the Storm Case is the best for a number of reasons. 1) It is lighter 2) The latches are awesome 3) There is a wide variety of sizes to choose from. I would not fault anyone for choosing the Pelican but I will never buy another Starlight. The latches on the Starlight are aweful and the thing weighs a ton. It just sits in my basement now. My go to cases are a small pistol storm case and a Storm rifle case whenever I travel or go to the range, I just love them. | |||
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Another vote for the Storm cases. You can get the foam that you cut out or the pick and pluck type. There is no feeling of pushing down too hard to get it closed because the latches are great. | |||
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GTG3 Who in Texas carries them? Thanks. SCI Life Member DSC Life Member | |||
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The hell with it. I went to the local sporting goods chain store (GI Joe's here in Oregon) and they had a Pelican 1750 on the shelf for $229. I know I could have gotten it for well under $200 online. But I got to actually examine the damned thing in person, and now it's here in my living room and a gun case is one less thing I have to sweat. I expect yeoman service from it. Now to sort out this TSA-friendly lock mess. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Traveled to and from SA two weeks ago using the Hardigg Storm cases one for 2 rifles, one for luggage and one carry on. Nothing went wrong. Have a few discolorations from impact on the checked cases but no damage. My hunting trip partner had the Cabelas two gun case and he sustained no damage other than the obligatory dents and gouges that Aluminum suffers. As photos show this storm case is used by the Military extensively. We use them at work for equipment too. I like mine and will continue to use it. The latches are FAR superior to the Pelican. No Bloody knuckles on a stuffed case. | |||
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