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I've been wearing a pair of Russell PH boots in cape buffalo hide for about 8 years now. They've been great boots and I've put many miles on them as hunting boots, day to day boots, and even dressed up boots. Saddle soap and Obaneauf's about twice a year has kept them in great shape.

I'm looking to get another pair of boots now to break in before my Sept hunt and am torn between getting another pair of Russell PH's or a pair of Courtney Safari's. I've no experience with the Courtney boots, but haven't ready a poor review of them yet.

So what says the group? Tried and true Russell's, or try the Courtney's?
 
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I've got both and have had great luck with the Courtney's! I haven't found the need to break them in. Bought a new pair in Harare 2 years ago and wore them most days of a 10 day buff hunt, no blisters, very supportive.


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I've been wearing Courteneys since the 1990s. Wear them every day in AK to hike and for casual outings. Never a need for break ins. They look great and are truly Africa. While not a cold weather boot nor a waterproof boot for the tundra, they fill the bill for everything else.
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Courteneys..comfortable from day one and very durable.
 
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Neither . . . get some real boots. Russells are a crap shoot in terms of whether you can ever find a pair to fit and once you do find a pair that fits be prepared for them to fall apart in short order. Courteneys are for looks and to maintain an image . . . unless you have flat feet like a Shona you will suffer from no arch support or have to buy inserts. Eccos and others are much better footwear.

. . . just my opinion, your mileage may vary.


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Bought Courtney boots over 10 years ago. From Day 1 they fit great( guess I am part flat footed Shona). Never broke them in, never had a blister, no insoles needed, and hundreds of miles tracking elephant and buffalo. They work!!


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+1 on the Russell fit. I wear a size 10D in just about every shoe or boot made. Russell goes through the trouble of taking all sorts of measurements of you feet, but I don't know what happens after that. I've had them back and forth for refit or entirely made from scratch again, and still not even close. I have 2 pair of Courtneys, but wear them mostly for casual dress. Regular hiking boots are the way to go, and MUCH cheaper than these alternatives.
 
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Have not tried Courtney's...do have Russels that I've wore on 5 safaris...have had NO issues with them....plains game to elephant...

Lots of walking in them. Will wear again in the the valley this Aug chasing jumbos.


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Got Courtney's - great boots
But out here in the west - Kennetrex


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I wore mine all day on a pheasant hunt and could sleep in them they are so comfortable, after being in the Army Infantry, you can tell a high quality boot, and courtneys are like Maserati seats for your feet.
 
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The best hiking shoes I've had were the old Asolo's.The only pain free hiking/trail running/running shoes I owned.Some of those heavy hiking boots can be very hard on the feet especially if they don't fit perfect.The Courtney's are flat and also don't leave much space for my big toe to slide in.
 
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Which ever one fits your feet best. For me it is Courteny
 
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Best boots - Lowa.

https://www.amazon.com/Lowa-Me...Hiking/dp/B005HUYU72

Africa, Alaska, Regular US hunting, FL & SC swaps, West Texas and HIll Country, walking in NYC show during winter.

Have them for 7 years - best pair of shoes.

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Just back from 6km of the most magnificent wild country - swamps, creeks and mountains right behind my house. I wore my brand-new Courteney Hunters, and am now sterilising a blister in a bucket of salty water. I love these boots - just wore-out my first pair. But some thoughtful breaking-in would be sensible.
 
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Hey Ben, Light Merino wool socks are the go
 
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I did pick the worst socks I have. Not real sensible. Too much of a hurry to get outside!
 
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I did pick the worst socks I have. Not real sensible. Too much of a hurry to get outside!


I too find that good socks and a break in period with any boot, no matter how high quality they are, is a must. I did 3-4 miles today in them, not crazy, but I love them. I wore nice patagonia socks, but try and wear them barefoot as much as possible to keep the feet tough.
 
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Which ever one fits your feet best. For me it is Courteny


Exactly right on boots that fit YOUR feet.

Everybody's feet are different and so is the last that boots are made on so find a brand that makes your feet happy.


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Mike Jines brought up a good point, one I overlooked as it is not even thought of--just a habit; that of buying insoles for the Courteneys. I don't know why they just don't mould in an arch support in the tyre soles. It's automatic now, I just buy insoles when I put on new Courteneys.
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1998 Zimbabwe
1999 Zimbabwe
1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation
2000 Australia
2002 South Africa
2003 South Africa
2003 Zimbabwe
2005 South Africa
2005 Zimbabwe
2006 Tanzania
2006 Zimbabwe--vacation
2007 Zimbabwe--vacation
2008 Zimbabwe
2012 Australia
2013 South Africa
2013 Zimbabwe
2013 Australia
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2017 Zimbabwe
2018 South Africa
2018 Zimbabwe--vacation
2019 South Africa
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Best boots - Lowa.

https://www.amazon.com/Lowa-Me...Hiking/dp/B005HUYU72

Africa, Alaska, Regular US hunting, FL & SC swaps, West Texas and HIll Country, walking in NYC show during winter.

Have them for 7 years - best pair of shoes.

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Which ever one fits your feet best. For me it is Courteny


Caterpillar make some good strong comfortable boots. Never got on with the Courtney and they did not like getting wet.


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I use british army issue desert boots in Africa...or just sandals if the heat is unbearable..

Lowa boot are also excellent..



 
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My first pair of elephant skins Courtney's were resoled by them three times - they were the best boots ever and eventually wore out after about 15 years of almost constant use - and quiet as well for sneaking about in the Zambezi Valley. Eventually owned three pairs.
Then one year I got stopped by the Russell guys as I walked past their booth at DSC. Got suckered into having my feet measured and buying a pair. What a rip off. The first two pairs that were way too big were returned - all the way from Africa, what a mission, I was eventually remeasured hoping for third time lucky but this was not to be! I still landed up with a pair that do not fit properly and the soles detached within the first season - thank heavens for super-glue. Go the Courtney route - you will not regret it!
 
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been my very good fortune to have known John and Gail Rice long time John worked at Clark in England and uses Clark last to build on and his boots are second to none
 
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Thanks all for the responses. Ordered a pair of the Courtney Safaris as well as a pair of the Lowa Renegades to try. I wear inserts in most of my boots as it is, so I ordered the SOLE insoles that African Sporting Creations sells.
 
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There are some good things about Courtenay's like that soft breathable leather and the thick stitched soles but the flat bottom sucks.
 
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Thanks all for the responses. Ordered a pair of the Courtney Safaris as well as a pair of the Lowa Renegades to try. I wear inserts in most of my boots as it is, so I ordered the SOLE insoles that African Sporting Creations sells.


Looking forward to seeing how you like the Courtney to the Lowa.

Worst case you have the lowa as your northeast outdoor boots.

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This whole footwear issue can be overthought.

On many of his videos, Buzz is wearing Crocs Wink
 
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This whole footwear issue can be overthought.

On many of his videos, Buzz is wearing Crocs Wink


Buzz is a nurse? Big Grin

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Hey now! I've never worn crocs to work...... Big Grin

Sterotype those croc people into some other profession, will ya? lol
 
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On many of his videos, Buzz is wearing Crocs

There's also some pix of him in his Mankini...just saying :-)
 
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Hey now! I've never worn crocs to work...... Big Grin

Sterotype those croc people into some other profession, will ya? lol


No..No..dont get me wrong. I've seen other women wear them too. jumping
 
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Hey now! I've never worn crocs to work...... Big Grin

Sterotype those croc people into some other profession, will ya? lol


No..No..dont get me wrong. I've seen other women wear them too. jumping


I wear crocs 50 percent of the time - best beach footwear.

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Crocs are dishwasher safe. jumping
 
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Hey now! I've never worn crocs to work...... Big Grin

Sterotype those croc people into some other profession, will ya? lol


No..No..dont get me wrong. I've seen other women wear them too. jumping


I wear crocs 50 percent of the time - best beach footwear.

Mike


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Crocs are dishwasher safe. jumping


Hose them done and they are as good as new. Best camp footwear too - you can shower in them, wear them around camp and leave them when you come back.

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I wasn't going to post an opinion on this but...changed my mind.

Not sure why Russell Moccasin Co measures your feet as they NEVER fit.

Courtney's would be OK if they were not flat as a slab of concrete in the sole.

I gave up on them both. I hunt in Africa in high-top tennis shoes.


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Crocs are dishwasher safe. jumping


Hose them done and they are as good as new. Best camp footwear too - you can shower in them, wear them around camp and leave them when you come back.

Mike


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Courtney's would be OK if they were not flat as a slab of concrete in the sole


I put a set of arch supports in mine and they are just about perfect. Plus, as MJines pointed out...you look cool wearing them Cool

And we all know that's what really counts!!! Big Grin
 
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Courtney's would be OK if they were not flat as a slab of concrete in the sole


I put a set of arch supports in mine and they are just about perfect. Plus, as MJines pointed out...you look cool wearing them Cool

And we all know that's what really counts!!! Big Grin


But the arch support inside the shoe does not change the fact that courtney soles are basically retreaded tires Cool

Looking cool is very important - why i got the blaser r8 so i can join the in crowd dancing

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