While I was at the SCI convention I got a chance to chat with Laura DuPlooy (Johnnie's better half) and she mentioned that they had Elephant on quota in Zambia and that they were US importable.

I hadn't seen that here before, but it is good news!

Otherwise, the SCI convention for me was a chance to meet with most of my past hunting connections and talk with Brian VanBlerk about my upcoming hunt with him. Overall, a fun time, but maybe next time I will plan on getting there on time so I can chat with some of the folks from around here.

It would seem but still requires clarification and who knows what quotas the operators will get.

Note due to the previous twenty year odd ban many PH's today have no elephant hunting experience.

Enclosed is photo of first set of tusks to come out after the ban in 2002. Taken Lower Zambezi. PH/Operator Doug Reynolds.

either that is a very small woman or a set of very nice tusks.
now speaking out of ignorance(and i admit it) what would a set of tusks like that weigh ?

best

peter

Unless something has radically changed Zambian ivory is NOT importable into the US.

Brett

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Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:
Unless something has radically changed Zambian ivory is NOT importable into the US.

Brett

brett

look at this:

http://forums.accuratereloadin...1411043/m/6221040941

best

peter

Posted 30 January 2011 01:33
From the SCI Convention Daily News, Saturday, January 29, 2011, Page A4

"For the first time in decades, hunters from the United States will be able to bring elephant ivory home from Zambia, following a formal agreement reached here at the Convention with officials from Zambia and the U.S.Fish & Wildlife Service."



Kathi

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I hadn't seen Kathi's post, but Laura was very explicit that the USF&W were on board now and that it was good to go. Apparently the Zambian officials have been working on this for quite a few years.

Laura is really plugged in to the regs in Zambia and one of the good folks over there to deal with.

Historic Elephant Announcement by Zambian Government at 2011 Safari Club International Convention



For Immediate Release January 31, 2011

Washington, DC – Safari Club International Foundation (SCIF) is pleased to announce that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) will allow the importation of 20 elephant hunting trophies annually from Zambia starting this 2011 hunting season. This historic announcement was made at the 2011 SCI Annual Hunters’ Convention in Reno, Nevada.

“After years of collaboration, the FWS has made the determination that sustainable hunting of elephants will contribute to the enhancement of the survival of elephants in Zambia,” said SCI Foundation President Joseph Hosmer. “As a form of sustainable-use, hunting is a key component of wildlife conservation and management worldwide. The SCI Foundation is very proud to be part of the announcement.”

A formal exchange between the FWS and the Zambian government was made on Thursday, Jan. 27 in conjunction with the SCI Foundation Department of Science-based Conservation and Research. The finding of enhancement by the FWS is a conclusion reached after many years of information sharing, including government to government meetings facilitated at the SCI Convention and the African Wildlife Consultative Forum (AWCF).

Underwritten by the SCI Foundation, the AWCF convenes African governments, world renowned wildlife biologists, professional hunter associations and leading conservation NGOs to share information and discuss current wildlife management issues.

Contact: Nelson Freeman; media@safariclub.org

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Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:
Unless something has radically changed Zambian ivory is NOT importable into the US.

Brett

Brett - It was in fact the talk amongst the Zambian guys at SCI, and as Andrew says it does still need a final signature or two. But likely will be done in no time. Bell-Cross and I discussed who the hell is gonna judge the ivory for him, as it looks like he will be getting 1 on quota.

Just got the historic SCI notice. Great news!

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:
Bell-Cross and I discussed who the hell is gonna judge the ivory for him

That's too funny! I'm VERY pleased to be dead wrong on this one!!!

Brett

Thanks SCI for a job well done....

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:

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Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:
Unless something has radically changed Zambian ivory is NOT importable into the US.

Brett

Brett - It was in fact the talk amongst the Zambian guys at SCI, and as Andrew says it does still need a final signature or two. But likely will be done in no time. Bell-Cross and I discussed who the hell is gonna judge the ivory for him, as it looks like he will be getting 1 on quota.

Rich has already sold it and I hope for the client's sake I am not hunting him as I have great difficulty telling which is the front or back of a foot print.

Elephant? That's that big thing with a long nose? Females don't have horns? Often seen running towards a chap called Buzz?

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:

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Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:
Unless something has radically changed Zambian ivory is NOT importable into the US.

Brett

Brett - It was in fact the talk amongst the Zambian guys at SCI, and as Andrew says it does still need a final signature or two. But likely will be done in no time. Bell-Cross and I discussed who the hell is gonna judge the ivory for him, as it looks like he will be getting 1 on quota.

Rich has already sold it and I hope for the client's sake I am not hunting him as I have great difficulty telling which is the front or back of a foot print.

Elephant? That's that big thing with a long nose? Females don't have horns? Often seen running towards a chap called Buzz?

Andrew - Lary bought it! What a surprise??

last trip to zambia we sure did see a hellovalot of eles. got chased several times. didn't really see any bull that we that big, but we were not hunting eles either. overall this is very good news

Just another fine reason to hunt Zambia! I have no idea about western Zambia, but the Luangwa Valley has a big population of elephant, and though it has been some time since I have been in the valley, and things may have changed, after all that is part of AFRICA!
However the last time I was there I personally saw several bulls that I would love to have taken!

I can't think of a better place in Africa today to stand a chance of finding a 100 pounder than the Luangwa Valley of Zambia. So to you elephant hunters this is certainly good news!

Go get one Mike Jines!

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Originally posted by MacD37:
Just another fine reason to hunt Zambia! I have no idea about western Zambia, but the Luangwa Valley has a big population of elephant, and though it has been some time since I have been in the valley, and things may have changed, after all that is part of AFRICA!
However the last time I was there I personally saw several bulls that I would love to have taken!

I can't think of a better place in Africa today to stand a chance of finding a 100 pounder than the Luangwa Valley of Zambia. So to you elephant hunters this is certainly good news!

Go get one Mike Jines!

Sadly and not too long ago the population of elephant in the Luangwa was reduced from 100,000 to 12,000 and the big tuskers have all but gone.

From the couple books I've read of old timers hunting in Northern Rhodesia I seem to remember they weren't shooting big elephants even 100 years ago. 50-60lbs. seemed to be a good one back then and most were being shot bellow or well bellow that mark.

Brett

I'm certainly no judge of Ivory but in September while hunting with Johnny we saw lots of Elephant and two had rather large tusks. Unfortunately one only had a right tusk the other a left. Now if you could get a 2 for 1 sale and pop both you might have quite a prize.