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Lets make it simple for everyone. Who are the right people to hunt with in Zim - by right - you will get a fair ethical hunt with and outfitters you can trust will be fair honest and ethical in their financial dealing. I will start by saying Leon DuPlessis and Mike Payne with Save Safaris. I have a hunt report or two with them posted on AR. Anyone else can add to this thread and hopefully provide other AR members with a road map to addressing the main ethical issue in hunting Zim - choosing the right outfitter. Mike | ||
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Most people are good guys in Zim, it would be easier just to name the bad apples. | |||
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True but most people will not stick their necks out to say something negative about someone even though it would help AR community as a whole. Plus scumbags like Arnold Payne have dragged people into frivolous litigation. AR does a great job in providing consumer information for a high dollar discretionary activity than has no residual value. Best way to know something is to hear it from people who have paid real dollars to go hunt and get their reference. I always trust real consumers more than paid celebrity experts or someone trying to sell a service or a product. So it easier just to provide a reference for the good guys especially AR members who have been here a while and have hunt reports. Mike | |||
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Nixon D in Malapati. | |||
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CMS Martin Pieters Zambezi Hunters Johnny Hulme | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by A.Dahlgren: Most people are good guys in Zim, it would be easier just to name the bad apples.[/QUOTE a few rouge elements in our industry for sure. Just do your due diligence , and you will have a great safari. | |||
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In my experience Mokore Safaris, Zambezi Hunters, Pro Safaris, Klipkraal Travel and Safari have been and continue to be excellent. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Lots of good operators in Zim . . . CMS, Mokore, Thierry LaBat, Chifuti, Pete Barnard (Bvekenya Safaris), Brent Hein, Martin Pieters, John Sharp, Shawn Buffee, and those are just ones that immediately come to mind. Mike | |||
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Stay away from Evans M'kanza. He was in Kariba and kept my tip money and the trophy fee and it was a long two years to make things right. He's only the second generation in his family to be walking upright since they slithered out of the slime. Others have had trouble with this POS. I agree, most Zim PHs are fine gents. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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I've always been happy with Lou Hallamore. He's no longer booking through HHK Safaris (with who I've had a half-dozen good hunts, btw). He can be contacted through www.hallamorehunt.com I'd imagine that he's had as many days in the bush (especially with his time with both RLI and RAR). I'll be on my 8th safari with him in April (another tuskless) ... and we get to fish Lake Kariba for tiger fish, too... Whoopee! JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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Nigel Theisen who is now a full-time PH for the Bubye Valley Conservancy. Which leads to the fact the BVC is a great conservancy and anyone allowed to PH there is OK. Nigel also books a few hunts with Nengasha Safaris which leads to Paul Bennie who is owner/outfitter of Nengasha and also a PH. Paul is a good guy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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+1 for Mike Payne and Leon Du Plessis at Save Safaris - I have done 7 hunts with them | |||
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Barry and Robb Styles of Buffalo Range safaris | |||
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John Sharp.. USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Martin Nel is great and one of the regulars in the Bubye. As stated, Shawn Buffee as well. Another two are Lance Nesbitt and Dean Kendall. John Hunt is very good on Leopard. All are competent and extremely qualified. | |||
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This is great - you go thru this list and you see experienced hunters/AR members who have spent real dollars telling you who the good ethical guys in Zim are. I bet in just the response to this thread the posters have spent millions of their dollars in the aggregate hunting in Zimbabwe. Zim has a very developed high quality hunting industry. It operates in the land of Uncle Bob and is probably doing as much for conservation as anyone in Zim by just staying in business. It is a commercial and professional industry - end of day behind all hunting marketing conservation ect it is a business which is fine - actually it is great. It attracts a few bad apples and that is what we as consumers need to stay away from. I also think that there are some very informed hunters who have low ethical and legal standards who are attracted to the bad apples - booking questionable hunts on seized land, hunting in national parks ect. Little can be done ny good ethical consumers to stop that other than not hunting with them and using our US based organizations to prevent the bad apples from advertising. When some well respected Zim ph comes on AR and asks who xyz is - that is a very nice way of saying stay away from xyz. None of these ethical legal and media frenzy driven anti hunting stories and events would occurs with the good operators. It is real wild animal hunting that is not a controlled event - there is a degree of uncertainty - why we have failed hunts, accidents, lost injured animals ect. But one would not see hunting on seized lands, throwing away of a collar ect that created the whole Cecil drama and a black eye for hunters. So if one decides to hunt Zim - which I think is a great hunting destination. Hunt with the good guys. Mike | |||
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Thierry Labat for sure. I've hunted with him five times and sitting in Joburg now on my way to the 6th with a 7th coming in January albeit that one is in Cameroon. Lots of good guys in Zim but Thierry is at the top in my opinion. Good thread for somebody researching a hunt. | |||
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Exactly. There are certainly some bad apples in the Zimbabwe hunting industry - some have been called out here, and those are the ones to avoid. My suggestion is to discuss your hunt with whoever you wish to hunt with, and before sending the deposit, ask about them here. | |||
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I would certainly add Phillip Smythe to the list of good guys! "The difference between adventure and disaster is preparation." "The problem with quoting info from the internet is that you can never be sure it is accurate" Abraham Lincoln | |||
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My Zim experience is with CMS and Mokore, and I'm repeat business for very good reasons. I had good experience with Jumbo Moore back when he had Arda in the Save, but I don't think he operates in Zim any longer. | |||
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I, like JudgeG had 3 good safaris with HHK. In fact if you looked at my posts around 2003 or so you would see that if asked, I would reply that there was only one damn good one in my experience and that was HHK. That all changed with my last safari in 2010 with HHK. It will and is my last safari with HHK. The whole safari was a pretty shabby experience. There are a helleva lot better operators in Zimbabwe. | |||
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John Sharp is TOP on my list in Zim!! Cheers, 470EDDY | |||
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Have had great personal experience with Shawn Buffee and Mark Bristow in the BVC - fantastic place. While there spent time with Brent Hein - great guy and great PH. In my research, really liked Mokore as well. | |||
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Use one of the top agents that you see post here a lot. Then, check them out. Mark Young is a good guy. Jeff Neal and Greg Brownlee are good. Tim Herald works with a good outfit. Wendell Reicht is solid. There are many here. You pay no more for using an agent. I work with one nearly every hunt. | |||
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I have only done one safari to Zim, so - take this for what it's worth. I booked in Chewore South with Chifuti through Safari Classics. Everything went like clockwork and couldn't have been better, or easier from my end. I like paying the agent in the US - just in case! USMC Retired DSC Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Zambezi Hunters, Alistair Poole is an honorable man. Thierry Labat is A#1 in my book. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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Well done Mike!  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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In regards to HHK, there is a reason why the likes of the Hallimores & other "good-guys" quit the company. Yes, PH wages are kept low but not the only reason. Graham Hingeston has a lot to answer for to those who have known and followed the areas they have managed. I use the term manage loosely. | |||
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Managed....more like raped and pillaged. | |||
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I said I was using the term loosely.  Agreed. | |||
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Right now I would avoid HHK like the proverbial plague! Good people have left that company for a reason. | |||
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Andy Hunter has worked magic on multiple safaris in both northern and southern concessions. I recently hunted Bubye with Mark Bristow and he was superlative too. lb | |||
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Stephen Meyer of Lowveld Hunters. Also in this venture is his father which is also one of the doyens of Zim big game hunting, JPS Meyer which still actively hunts and guides today. | |||
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I would suggest you could not do better than CMS. Buzz and Myles (sp?) are truly fine folks to hunt with, reasonably priced, and have some great concessions. I hunted with them, and would love to do so again... | |||
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John Sharp (BVC) Norman Crooks (Pro Safaris) | |||
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Couldn't agree more. Martin Pieters runs a decent operation as well. JEB Katy, TX Already I was beginning to fall into the African way of thinking: That if you properly respect what you are after, and shoot it cleanly and on the animal's terrain, if you imprison in your mind all the wonder of the day from sky to smell to breeze to flowers—then you have not merely killed an animal. You have lent immortality to a beast you have killed because you loved him and wanted him forever so that you could always recapture the day - Robert Ruark DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Second on the Styles brothers. Great guys and a well delivered hunt. Guav Johnson has the Kazuma concession still, and that is a truly memorable hunt with a first rate PH. Done 10+ hunts with Guav. | |||
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Another recomendation for Martin Pieters! Another warning against HHK!!!!!!! . | |||
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I have hunted with: Zayne Van der Merwe (retired to farming) Martin Pieters Shaun Buffee Lindon Stanton Neil Duckworth (Twice) They all epitomized what I expect a PH to be and can recommend each one. What I avoid: Anything with PAC in it. Anything in the Gwaii River Valley. Anything in a National Park, Robbins Camp seems to be a favorite. Just about anything with an operator not from Zim unless it is with one of the guys on this thread. | |||
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