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700 N.E. - Who built it
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I was in a discussion the other day with some guys who before that were considered reasonably decent blokes. However...certain issues have changed that. These issues might be set right and I might have to go back there with hat in hand but I thought I would throw this out and see what happens.

Who built the first 700 N.E.?

Who used/bought the gun and for what?

Who designed the bullet?

Any ideas?

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In 1985 Bill Feldstein (Beverly Hills, CA) had 6 doubles in .600 Nitro express and wanted a 7th for his collection (55 double rifles). Holland & Holland refused to build another. They had already made their "official" last one. Bill then conceived the idea of building a bigger rifle...a .700 Nitro. H&H agreed to build one if he would design the cartridge and pay for the experimentation. In 1986 Jim Bell and Feldstein drew up plans for the original .700 H&H Nitro Express. He contracted the 1,000 grain bullets from Woodleigh.... 3,000 solids and 2,000 softs. In January of 1990 a beautifully engraved Holland & Holland in .700 H&H Nitro Express was completed. Bill took it to Ethiopia where he hunted with us and took the first elephant to fall to one. It was just an average elephant, nothing like the one he had collected with us a year previous which weighed 100 and 104 lbs. I believe that Bill still owns the proprietary rights to the cartridge which sells for $100 each.

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Rich,
Correct me if I am wrong. I think Bill got caught playing footsie with a fair maiden in his office and his wife helped him unload a number of those nice doubles during the divorce in order to help with her bereavement.
 
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Thanks Rich...
Well it looks like hat in hand time again. I hope those guys I was talking about still like me!
 
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I believe that Bill still owns the proprietary rights to the cartridge which sells for $100 each.

Rich ELliott




I am not sure what it would mean for someone to own proprietary rights to a cartridge.

700 Nitro Express rifles have been built by H&H, Watson Brothers, Searcy, Hambrusch and several custom gunsmiths. Brass has been made by Bell, Horneber, and at least one other company that I am aware of.
 
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Rich,
Correct me if I am wrong. I think Bill got caught playing footsie with a fair maiden in his office and his wife helped him unload a number of those nice doubles during the divorce in order to help with her bereavement.




lol There's a divorce lawyer near here who runs an ad with a picture of a Porsche Boxter. The personalized licence plate says "WAS HIS"
 
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I think Bill gets a % on the sale. At least it started out that way.

Rich Elliott
 
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"I think Bill got caught playing footsie with a fair maiden in his office .........."

How can I descretely say, "which one?"

Bill's a good guy and a good friend. Everyone has to have a hobby!

BTW, Bob Lee of NY bought most of them. $2 million if I recall.

Rich Elliott
 
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I think Bill gets a % on the sale. At least it started out that way.

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I am curious about this. Perhaps H&H pays Bill a percentage since Bill paid for the R&D up front. It would be surprising if anyone else paid, but stranger things have happened.

Sorry to hear of Bill's divorce. Hopefully there is still enough left for him to enjoy some more elephant hunts.
 
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Elephant hunts? Well, he's been on one that I know of since then. He's a 24 carat elephant junky!

Rich Elliott
 
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