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Hi, just for Your interest. Some nice made custom build (for Your caliber) heavy duty cartridge wallets. I am using mine fo about 2 years now and beeing asked a couple of times where to get those nicely made accessories...: source: http://www.titanium-gunworks.c...onenetuis/index.html     look here: http://www.titanium-gunworks.c...onenetuis/index.html and something very special on that site too: an LED illuminated front sight for Your rifle (fits from Blasers, Sauer, Mauser, Remington, Browning, Sako, and much more): http://www.titanium-gunworks.c...r-blaser-rifles.html   Klaus | ||
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Bloody nice looking gear  Verbera!, Iugula!, Iugula!!! Blair. | |||
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These things are made in the USA, in Salt Lake City, UT! For the guys in the USA Contact Aleco at Heritage Arms who posts here as he is the maker! I have many of these items and they are top drawer! http://heritagearms.net ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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(801) 968-3337 Simon Aardema This is almost certianly the actual builder. | |||
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I prefer the open top kind that fits on my belt and prefer it to hold ten rounds. My leather one was gotten for about $20 from Cabelas and that's OK with me after all the sweat and dirt on Safari. My PH wore shorts with an elsatic band (no belt) and a canvass ammo belt, which might be a better way to go. Indy Life is short. Hunt hard. | |||
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absolutely NO! MacD is right tat they are coming fom Aleko from SLC !!! | |||
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From the Heritage Arms website: "We went out in search of high quality products made here in the U.S. We found the Africase company, based here in Utah. Africase is a small company with a unique, quality line of products." Could be that both Tendrams and Scubapro are right, since 801 is a Utah area code. | |||
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If I remember right, the Africase products are made by Aleco's father, for Heritage Arms, owned by Aleco! They are made in a seperate shop rather than at the Heritage Arms store! In any event Heritage arms is the place to order them in the USA!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Thanks for the extra info MacD37. Top quality products, made in the USA, made with a passion for the sport and with insight about the people who will use the products - we need more of this! And we hunters need to support these entrepreneurs! | |||
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Exactly. I have heard Simon is a great guy to work with. With all respect Mac, I can understand loyalty to a seller...but that doesn't mean you should beleive all thier marketing hype. | |||
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In regard to marketing hype, I can't think of a product that is not reccomended as the best thing since sliced bread, by the guy selling it. In this case the value is something I have seen for myself, and IMO it isn't hype! Of course one may buy what he pleases, as long as it's his own money he spends! These things from Africase are the only things I've personally bought from Heritge Arms, but in this case they were not missrepresented, and are value for money spent, again, IMO! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Ahh...Africa Excessitis strikes again... trying to see 3 x the value... http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas...cat601051&id=0049011 http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas...cat601051&id=0018834 http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas...cat601051&hasJS=true Of course it may have nothing to do with value or functionality...maybe status symbol Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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A) I am not sure one needs cartrdige wallets of any sort. B) If I am buying cartridge wallets, I don't think slick photography trumps functionality. C) If I do buy into the slick photography, why the heck not buy them from the builder and save the 100% markup from Heritage? Support the craftsman, not the middleman! | |||
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Ive had a number of these cheep Chinese and Korean bullet pouches fall apart on me. Come to think about it Ive had a US UNCLE MIKES fall apart too. I now buy the more pricey ones in the hope they are better quality. So far so good. | |||
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@OZhunter: If You are in Melbourne, have a look at Mialls´gunshop: You may find them there too (at least a small choice) ... And, they are realy high quality - nothing fails and there are costum build for YOUR caliber, not the cheap "one size fits all" method. That´s why they are a little bit more expensive like the Cabelas junk...  @tendram: If You doubt, that Aleko is the founder: You may know that he holds design patents on it...?! | |||
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Someone patented a flap of leather? Wow! They're gonna be rich! I'm done with this conversation.  (801) 968-3337 Simon Aardema | |||
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I have some of the 'cheap' boyts wallets. To make the rounds fit more snugly, I glued a small strip of leather inside the loop. You can adjust tension to your rounds as you see fit by the thickness of leather shims. Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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Scubapro, Have you ever bought anything from Cabela's, I suspect not. Becuase if you had you would know that the vast majority of their private label merchandise is extremely high quality. I also would not call 3X " a little more expensive". By the way I have never had any cartridge wallet fall aprt on me. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I have to say that while the Cabelas offerings that Mike Dettorre linked may be 1/3 the price they do not represent 1/2 the value. Some of the other Cabelas offerings are a much better product and value than those linked, but none are the quality of the Africase offerings. Over time, I have come to appreciate higher quality. I have the Africase 2 round slide, which I use on my Murry Leather belt to keep a couple of softs available, but seperate from my solids. Even for such an insignificant purpose, the quality is appreciated. And worthwhile, imo. JPK  Free 500grains | |||
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Like I have said...Africa Excessitis... BTW I don't care what other people spend their money on...I just find the whole thread amusing... I don't think I have ever heard any hunter discuss... The best cartrdidge case for a Teaxs Hill country hunt or the best shirt for California deer/pig combination hunt. Now I have only been on six safaris in four differnet locations ranging from 3 days to 11 days but I sure don't see much difference in field conditions in hunting Texas or California or the lower elevations of Montana or for that matter Alaska in moderate weather. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Well everyone has their idea on this stuff with little or no basis on facts. I am the owner and creator of Africase, I used several craftsman to create my designs. As typical a lot of bullshit with very little fact Aleko Hits count, misses don't | |||
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I have used Africase, Westley-Richards and Murray leather craft for cartridge wallets and the good news is they are all good and very functional. I don't know that I would necessarily rate one brand over another. I think it mostly gets down to what style of holder or wallet you like. MMP | |||
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I use similar quality shell holders for my local whitetail hunts. Have several of them in sizes for standard cartridges and short cartridges. I hadn't found one for my 12ga sabot loads for those local areas where shotguns are required, but I see that I can order one custom, so I will. While I'm at it, I'll order a 20ga version for my son, who uses a 20ga slug gun where he must. You don't appreciate quality gear like I do I suppose. Different strokes... JPK Free 500grains | |||
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So true, but I'll point out that the common denominator of the brands you mention is excellent quality. Not so with some of the other shell holders mentioned in this thread! JPK Free 500grains | |||
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I happened to be researching "shell holders" recently: http://forums.accuratereloadin.../1411043/m/332109513 http://forums.accuratereloadin.../1411043/m/340108265 http://forums.accuratereloadin.../4711043/m/378101493 Very nice Aleko, I just recommended them to a friend looking for something for his new double. If he can spend $10K on a double, $1K on ammo and reloading stuff, and $20K on a hunt...I think he can swing $150 or whatever on a fine quality cartridge holder! Mike, okay so which is it, shells in the pocket or shells in the cartridge belt?  I just ordered an overpriced $130 WR canvas and leather "culling belt" to replace the one left behind in Zim w/a mate...a Boyt that sort of looks like it is 30-bucks from Cabelas. We all can justify spending money differently. And hey, I'm just as proud of my $8 Duofold "African Hunting Shirts" from campmor.com as Mike is of his $28 cartridge belt! | |||
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Texas Hunt Company has a new ammo holder which holds 10 rounds with separations between rounds so one can grab hold of two for your double loading... Jeff Wemmer thank you... Mike http://www.texashuntco.com/Pro...ails.asp?ProductID=6 | |||
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Aleko...what is the bullshit without the facts? Aleko, if you can convince somebody that they really need a $70-$80 cartridge carrier more power to you. And speaking of a little bullshit...you own Heritage Arms and above you say you are the owner and creator of AfriCase but your website says you went out in search of proudcts and you found the Africase company. Which is it do you find it or did your create it? What's with the sleight of hand? Why can't you say you went to look for product and couldn't find what you liked so you created your own? Just a little brotherly ribbing here. Its like cars...does Mercedes convince people to buy their's over a Toyota Camry...you bet. Is there 3x the functionality? probably not. Next let's go to rifles...is a $7000 Duane Wiebe custom a very nice rifle?...absolutely. But three 3 leaf rear sights with 1 regulated at 200 yds and 1 regulated at 300 yds???. Who do you know in today's day and age is taking a shot with an open sight shallow V at 200 yds? let alone 300 yds? with the risk of losing an animal. (I am sure some people are qualified to take the 200 yd shot certainly not I). It's jewlery...do I think it looks cool, you bet but its jewelry. Is an off the rack Win Model 70 that has had $500 put in it for a tune up to ensure reliability just as functional it sure is. But cartridge cases??? next thing you know I am going to see a thread a on the best shoe laces and handkercheifs for a DGR safari. Bill C...its pockets. Sometimes I throw an additional 5 pack of rounds in my 1st aid kit but not always or I have some slings that will hold a couple extra rounds. I generally just carry 4 in the gun and 1 in each pocket plus 2 in the coin pocket. I really can't ever remember needing more than 10 rounds without returning to the vehicle. This thread reminds me of an article that was done on Spec Ops teams and there were discussing all the testing and research the FBI HRT team had done on pistols and ammunition. They then asked the British SAS what they used for pistols. Answer: FN Hi Powers in 9mm. Why? "That's what we had. We cleaned them up a little, they work just fine." Well what kind of special ammunition does the SAS use? Answer: "We don't, standard NATO ball." Well aren't you worried about the poor stopping power/terminal ballistics? Answer: "No, we shoot people in the head" On the subject of jewelry, What do we think the best watch is for a DG hunt? Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Don't need one once you leave Frankfurt  Let the PH get me up, or most likely the first light of dawn....depending on when you want to head out in the AMRobert Robert If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them, they must become happy. Thomas Jefferson, 1802 | |||
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http://www.fontanasports.com/products2.cfm/id/13097/ What about boxers to go with my custom cartridge carriers? Keep in mind that I am only looking for "best quality" boxers to employ during my upcoming DG safari. Do you think they are good enough for a Dangerous Game safari or should I only use them for Plains Game? Should I look for something better when hunting buffalo? These are only $40 a pair though so that worries me a bit? Is there something better out there that I can spend more money on? Wait....I KNOW! AFRIBOXER!!! Do they exist? Should I patent the idea? If they do exist, can I get them for less than $100 per pair or should I just call the actual manufacturer and get them for $50?  | |||
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Wow. This is a lot of discussion for a thread that started out "Just for your interest..." I know that I'm always interested in seeing hunting items that others have found useful. Then I can decide for myself if they are worth my money and buy them. And since it's being asked, my handkerchiefs are ones that my wife made for me, in khaki and olive. Sorry, they're not for sale. My laces are from Russell, and my watch is a Timex. Underwear, ummm, how about commando? See, more information is not always a good thing! | |||
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Handkerchiefs? I got a cammo bandanna. No whimpy handkerchiefs for me! | |||
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They will be fine for both plainsgame and dangerous game, but you should shop around, as campmore.com has them for $34.99: http://www.campmor.com/outdoor...2477120&CS_010=66186 Or, wear hiking shorts w/the liner that double as water shorts, then you won't need any underwear period. | |||
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I used to use Dick Murray's carriers. But then everyone started using his stuff, and also the Westley Richards and Africase stuff, and all of it has lost its panache. I now have a separate ammo bearer who walks just behind me, with five rounds clenched in each of his fists. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Mike: The best watch for a DG Hunt? Why a Rolex of course! | |||
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Oh, BS! Everyone has a Rolex. Patek Phillipe perhaps, or in my case, and IWC. Rolex's are for plebians that don't know watches! Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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I really prefer my Panerai Luminor over my Rolex, Cartier's, Baume Mercier because if you need to see in the dark or read something you can lol! Hopefully, Santa will be bringing my Vacheron Constantin Overseas Dual Time this year! I have been a very good boy and deserve one. | |||
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Boss Hoss: Have him bring me one too, while you're at it and then I won't have to take my Rolex on the next DG hunt. | |||
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after reading this thread, I realize I am one low class poor hick!  I use federal plastic belt ammo case(one that comes in the factory ammo box!) --I buy my underwear at target--3 per pack @ 12$ -- my watch is a cheap 99$ special I bought 10 years ago But there is hope --even for me!----I own a searcy and I drink Wild Turkey nothin sweeter than the smell of fresh blood on your hunting boots | |||
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I concur, but I make mine wear a Dick Murray ammo belt, Will Stewart knickers, $40 boxers, a white shirt, an english sportsman's vest, a white crevate, highly polished elephant skin Courtneys, white gloves, a Presidential Rolex, and a pith helmet with a zebra band. Anything less would just be uncivilized! ____________________________________________ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett. | |||
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As a source of protein for the family, African hunting is hardly an exercise in economy anyway, sooo, if a fella spends a few hundred for some such item as these and can afford it, what the hell? So long as he doesn't try to sell the idea that it is essential (EXCEPT, of course to his wife), enjoy yourself. SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI | |||
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