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Hehe must be the most stupid post this year  | |||
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Without context we don't have a clue what Adam is thinking or why he is in the picture. Or what is even going in the picture. All I see is Adam and what might be trackers just posing with a few big pumpkins, that are probably worth a fortune. Are we to jump to the conclusion that all logging in Cameroon is bad, and therefore Adam is evil because by posing with a picture of some harvested trees and he is obviously condoning the wanton destruction of the environment and bongo habitat, and is clearly happy about it?  How do we know that this is not a sustainable forest practice that is bringing revenue and a higher standard of living to the locals? Or are they not allowed to develop their natural resources? I understand that there is some Forest Stewardship Council Certified forestry in a one or more countries in Central/West Africa that is supposed to ensure that forest development is sustainable and that the local indigenous people are involved. I am sure that there is also timber poaching, or big evil logging companies from China or Russia or God-knows-where that are nuking the rainforest for maximum profit, but am I just supposed to jump to the conclusion that is the case here and that somehow Adam is profitting by it or just getting his jollies from seeing the forest getting logged? If you've got some facts that Adam Clements is "proud of destroying wildlife habitat" by all means post them. Otherwise, the accusation is rediculous and potentially libelous. | |||
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well it's only about 1 below here but the wood fire in our furnace is keeping the place just as warm as it has for the last 35 years or so. And the trees keep replacing themselves | |||
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+1  Nothing like jumping to conclusions. It seems that some on here can't wait to slam someone. 465H&H | |||
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Again, will someone please think of the trees! They have feelings too! This post is getting ridiculous | |||
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I very much doubt your firewood costs anywhere near $1000 - $3000 per cubic meter. It might also be worthy of note that African hardwoods (and forests) are fast disappearing and that a good number of countries have now banned their export. These hardwoods take a damn sight more than 35 years to grow into trees with trunks of the diameter as shown in the photo. This of course has nothing to do with AC nor is any suggestion being made that he is culpable of any misdeed. | |||
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Agreed. I have seen the logging in Cameroun. Just shocking and definitely not sustainable, but this is not AC fault.... Hunter54 take a second and think before you post pls! | |||
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Guys !!! what we have here is what we face everyday - somebody saying they know something about someone but not shareing details - this can be fear of retribution /prosecution , but what we have is a statement - they know of ! have seen ! or are aware of !!!, these statement normally come from the anti fraternity - and I make a point of rebuking them with the statement that to have knowledge of ; have witnessed ; have evidence of .... is akin to witnessing a rape and doing nothing. In order for us to ensure the hunting industry is clean and tidy we must all take action when faced with conjecture or rumors, set the platform to enable the industry to clean up or don't start a malicious rumor . Also try to bear in mind that one of our industry failures is the disease marketing strategy where outfitters or PH's bad mouth one another. That said please understand that my goal is to get people to act on facts or feed smoke to the people who can investigate and clear up uncertainties but stay away from conjecture and rumor. | |||
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I honestly don't think the rediculous accusations in the first post should be dignified with an official response, but for those who are interested in the actual context of the photo, Adam let me know that the photo was taken over 6 years ago, in April 2006, when he was hunting bongo in Cameroon as a client. Of course, he confirmed that he was/is in no way affiliated with the logging industry. They were simply taking a photo to show how big the trees were compared them, etc....as I am sure most of us would do in the same situation. To his knowlege the logging was legal. | |||
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Larry, Your friend BigBBear may be "a stand up guy" but he is not an honorable one. Anyone who brings up accusations should be man enough to back up those accusations with details and facts. A person who's "intregrity is beyond reproach" would do so. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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BigBBear, is that a promise like the one before? | |||
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I REALLY didn't want to bump this back to the top, but I thought that some of you might have an interest in and/or enjoy the video found at the link below. Rainforest Alliance Certification uses the Forest Stewardship Council Certification Standard that I mentioned above... Follow the Frog | |||
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I see nothing here has changed. | |||
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And it will remain so. People here say whatever they wish, then the members can decide who to believe. | |||
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Yes+1 DRSS | |||
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